Could THIS Be Causing All of the Engine Fires?

[SuperSport]

i went to store and got the o-ring assortment. only bought one since i already had the same assortment at home. Autozone didnt have the 12 pack o ring assortment for the fuel injectors.

honestly, i didnt think i was going to get the black retainer out. I fiddled with it for 10 minutes until i finally just took a tiny flat head screwdriver and stuck it in through the side opening in the quick disconnect, lodged it on top of the retainer and pushed down really hard. POP. came out lol rest was easy. Did the same on the rear line, except, you cant fish the flathead through the side of the quick disconnect. You have to go in from the very bottom and just pry downward on the top of the retainer even thought it is an awkward angle, and you feel like its not gonna come out. thise one was easier than the front for some reason...

pulled all the o-rings out, and to my surprise, they were not cracked at all. they looked good actually. On the rear, i dont know if i bumped the yellow oring while messing with the retainer, but it looked like it had been out of place or something. I was trying to make sense of my rear leak. idk...I put in all new orings and nothing leaks at all! i pushed and pulled an no leaking! so, o-rings looked good, but the new ones fixed the leak issue....maybe the old o-rings were too flimsy?

edit* my car has 97k miles on it, so i don't know if the engine fires are from these fuel line o-rings. Maybe just on the higher mileage engines?? SuperSport, how many miles were on your car when you changed the o-rings?

Wow congrats on getting that done so fast! When I lined up the old rings and the new rings before I put them in, I could tell the yellow ring shrunk a bit, so that, along with either a hardened/cracked or shrunk brown ring, causes leaks. At least youre leaks are gone. Good job.

My car had 118,100 miles on it when I changed mine.

Very good read, Thanks for being thorough. I have 150k on my rails never been disconnected. Errrrrr....

No problem. I couldnt imagine what they look like. I think it helps if the rails have never been off the lines. I know when I got my car the UIM had been replaced, so I know my rings were disturbed. Id still change them for good measure.

[gpbastard]

Isn't this something that should be reported to NHTSA?.

[gpbastard]

I just filed a complaint to NHTSA. This needs to be taken seriously. I personally know of someone that this happened to even after having GM fix the recall items. Luckily there was snow on the ground and that's how he put it out...

[Lonestargp]

Funny thing that I seen this thread. I was changing my Orifice Tube today and noticed a slight smell of gas. I just happened to move the fuel line when I unbolted and moved the brake booster. The odor got stronger. I stopped what I was doing and traced it to the rear quick disconnect. I was just thinking about how to fix the leak! Looks like that project will be tomorrow. Glad I caught this thread!

[SuperSport]

Bump for anyone who has not seen this thread.

[matt5112]

http://www.grandprixforums.net/f73/r...rings-743.html

Party pooper is hereeeeeeeeeee

[SuperSport]

From the original thread:

I was aware of the write up here on GPF that walks you through changing o-rings for a GTP, but was unclear on where exactly to pick up the o-rings.

Looks like the guy who can't read is hereeeeeeeeeee too.

[BDEGhost]

Just finished replacing my O rings on my fuel fittings. The hardest part was removing the black plastic retainer in the fitting. I used a paint can opener and it worked pretty well. Only problem I had was that when I pulled out the black retainer, it resisted at first, and then "popped" out, and flew across my garage. Luckily, I found it. Putting the new "O" rings in was easy. And, no fuel leaks after re-assembly.
Thanks for the write-up on this...it really helped...

[SuperSport]

Glad I could help you out Mr. Ghost.

[Warbeaver]

yeah, definatetly don't put so much force into getting the retainer out that you make it go somewhere u cant find. Mine just popped out on one side, so i knew it was close to coming out, so i was gentle working it out. also, it helps to put a giant cloth or something across the top of the engine bay so it doesnt fall down in the engine somewhere

[matt5112]

From the original thread:



Looks like the guy who can't read is hereeeeeeeeeee too.

True enough.

Still can't this part you mention around here.

******* canada...We only just got niteshades for a decent price

[relivenyouth]

Anyone else have success and recommendations with using the O'Reily o-ring package set for replacing the fuel line connectors o-rings? Is there a better match out there? Having a hard time matching, the old rings came apart in small pieces as I pulled them out.

[txslow6]

You would be better off switching your lines to stainless.

[matt5112]

New disconnect is $10 or less.

[relivenyouth]

Matt5112, Where can you get "new disconnect", thought GM required purchase of the entire fuel line?

[relivenyouth]

txslow6, do you mean replacing the entire line with braided stainless?

[16MustangVet]

Matt5112, Where can you get "new disconnect", thought GM required purchase of the entire fuel line?

Oreillys has the disconnects trust me I used one when I replaced the engine the 1st time in the black 4 door I have. And the injector orings has been a known problem for a long time.

Ohh did I mention my Regal GS burned down in April and Im 110% sure it wasnt due to leaky valve covers or injecotr o rings being bad I have the rydell chevrolet repair reciepts that were done from the owner before me, which also was a factor why I got away not having to pay for the damages done to the garage when my car burned down.

Showed the papers from Rydells to the fire department when they did the investigation and I was not held liable for the vehicle fire. Not caused by me nor was it negligence. Also the Fire department blamed it on a transmission line. I still 110% believe thats BS becasue the fire started and was the hottest behind the passneger headlight.

Whats behind the headlight on the passenger side? Battery, and fuse box. Ive seen at least 3 W body fires, 2 other cars in a yard where I usually get some parts from both looked exactly like mine. Im blaming electrical on all 3 Ive seen but what the hell do I know.

[TLSheff]

Wow... I feel fail... I completely missed this thread somehow and the other ones linked (which are failed links now)...

Fortunately when my engine blew last year we put all new o-rings on top and bottom of the injectors... as the tech and I are perfectionists and didn't want any leaks.

Unfortunately I just crested 95k and the fuel rails have been disconnected multiple times (LIM repairs, gasket replacements, new engine, etc...) and the Quick Connect O-rings have never been replaced... someone say a prayer until I get them changed .

I haven't as of yet smelled gas or noticed any leaks and I'm always checking fluids and playing under the hood, so I would notice... altho I DID remove the SC Cover and Hood Insulator, so fumes would probably just dissipate before I ever even noticed them. I Need to look into this

[codyAK]

Man, about a year ago today I started smelling fuel and found a leak at the disconnect.
I could not locate o-rings anywhere at all, no luck whatsoever.
I ended up buying a kit at harbor freight of lots of random sizes, and ended up finding the right sizes in there.
It was a huge pain to get them out, and even worse to get them in.. but I did it.

[16MustangVet]

Oreillys sells the injector o rings as a pack of 12 believe they are from BWD if you people really insist I could find a part number.