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    I'm just starting to tune up my car. I have a cam and headers soon to come. My car is N/A. What year and type would have the best timing table to copy over as a starting point.

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    My best bet would be an '04+ table as IIRC they are more aggressive on the timing curve.

    Then go from there.

    I was on a stock valvetrain'd L36, AFR sitting around 12.0~, 36*~ timing at WOT.

    Ran 87 octane with stock exhaust without the u-bend. No knock, evah.
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    rumour has is: 27* is MBT.

    Meaning going over that is pointless.

    Apparently run less octane if you can run 27* at WOT without KR.

    12.0 is still too rich, run 12.5-13.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueguy91 View Post
    I was on a stock valvetrain'd L36, AFR sitting around 12.0~, 36*~ timing at WOT.

    Ran 87 octane with stock exhaust without the u-bend. No knock, evah.
    Actually, the AFR was commanded at 13.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptile View Post
    Actually, the AFR was commanded at 13.0.
    Thats much better.
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    Still ran good for a GT.
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    Pooped on Cody's blower car until 75~
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    It's amazing what timing and a good tune can do
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    Mine is 12.5 at wot, 30° on 93.
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    So did anyone read what I typed?

    Did anyone dyno their cars at different amounts of timing and see where it stopped making power?
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    Nobody cares matt .. MOAR TIMING!
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    I seem to recall that gains from timing were lost at anything over 24*.... Thats boosted though.

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    I seem to recall many saying over 18 on pump gas is asking for it.

    Including vendors.

    I also seem to recall a particular overkill stating 27* if N/A being as far as you go, then you drop octane.
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    Justin.. 05 timing table.
    Maf tune it
    VE it for the flow mods.
    Then hop on the timing.
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    Just set it at 27* from the get go.

    Mine didn't knock.

    Ever.

    But god forbid you touch timing on blower cars.
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    My car would only run 21-22* timing with headers and 94 octane while N/A.

    It was a whore, still is.
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    Like I said, I ran 87.

    I think it's that Canadian air.
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    Mine currently would like 93. I'm about to go in for VE though. Pretty sure it's way off based on my gearing, etc etc etc.
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    sweet I can't wait to get the XP laptop from work to use DHP. I know for a fact I'm running crazy rich too.
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    Sometimes DHP plays nice with Win 7
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