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    I just got my plog in an still see a peak of 6*kr and 2-3* at part throttle, and its about 89 out right now at 7pm what could i do to lessen this i have a 3.6 i wanna install but would rather fix my kr first. i have 605's in could i do 104s without the pulley? or give me some ideas.. Once i save up im gonna do water/meth but it not in the budget yet

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    well just as a question, how are your mounts?? Is sway bar hitting anything to make false knock?

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    I'd think you need some local help and a tune. PM me for info on your kick butt locals.
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    Clean your MAF and throttlebody. Not kidding. Was seeing 2-3* flash knock on a gtp before the MAF was cleaned, and it went away. Oh, and make sure you've got those manifolds tightened down well and you have no vacuum leaks.

    DO NOT add the pulley before you've got everything straightened out.
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    Need a tune, there are some basic things to do in a tune that may cure this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoSHO99 View Post
    Need a tune, there are some basic things to do in a tune that may cure this.
    It's not worth it to pay for a tune before dropping the pulley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowNA06 View Post
    It's not worth it to pay for a tune before dropping the pulley.
    Who says? I've tuned completely stock cars and had some very happy owners afterwards. There are differences from paying for a 1.0 pcm or mail order tune and getting a custom tune.
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    He's got the pulley in hand and intends to pulley-down. I'd do a tune with the pulley, but it's probably a good idea to figure out what's borked before increasing boost.
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    A tune is hands down the best thing for these cars.

    I don't know why people would want to figure out the 6* of KR first before doing ANYTHING...even if the pulley drop was in mind...tossing on that 3.6" with a few degrees of KR left over...it'll be slower than the stock pullied car with all of the KR fixed...especially after 60 MPH.
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    Ok, so one im gonna check on the false knock issue tomorrow, i have rotated my factory mounts and have shorter dog bones. Any pics on where to look or mainly what to look for?

    Also i just cleaned the maf an throttlebody before the plog.. I have factory wires is that an issue there.? I dont have any misfires tho..

    could it be a vac leak, i see no lines broken but ive heard the bypass can cause this..
    04 Comp G..... OVERKILLED/local tune water/meth 3.6, SD headers, 3in catless catback, autolite 104's lowered on SSC's and gxp brakes, DONROME STB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegtp91 View Post
    A tune is hands down the best thing for these cars.

    I don't know why people would want to figure out the 6* of KR first before doing ANYTHING...even if the pulley drop was in mind...tossing on that 3.6" with a few degrees of KR left over...it'll be slower than the stock pullied car with all of the KR fixed...especially after 60 MPH.
    Thats why id like to at least pin point where and why i have this much kr, the factory kr should be gone by now with wat ive done on the 3.8 pulley, at least id hope it would
    04 Comp G..... OVERKILLED/local tune water/meth 3.6, SD headers, 3in catless catback, autolite 104's lowered on SSC's and gxp brakes, DONROME STB.

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    factory wires are great.
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    The car has 111k and i put around 50k on them an havnt replaced um.. should i?
    04 Comp G..... OVERKILLED/local tune water/meth 3.6, SD headers, 3in catless catback, autolite 104's lowered on SSC's and gxp brakes, DONROME STB.

    1/4mile in 14.03 at 98mph 2.4 60ft
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    Like I said, you can keep chasing this knock around or get it tuned out, you've done the basic stuff that should decrease knock, but there are a few things in the stock pcm that may be causing this knock as well as adjusting the maf table for your flow mods. Most stock cars have 6*+ of knock and after a basic tune without changing pulleys or doing anything at all physically with the car you can add another 2* over stock timing safely without knock.

    Some things you can't fix with just a wrench on a fuel injected car, if anything for now, i would unplug the battery to get your fuel trims to reset then check again after a day or after the fuel trims are re-learned which may take an hour and multiple restarts.
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    Ok, i did remove the battery and the Kr is not as bad it mainly part throttle kr and only 1-3* of kr at wot... but here as of now outside temp is 100 so thats not helping and last night i went out side of town and temps were around 75 it barely had kr at wot and pull better than before.!
    04 Comp G..... OVERKILLED/local tune water/meth 3.6, SD headers, 3in catless catback, autolite 104's lowered on SSC's and gxp brakes, DONROME STB.

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    How many miles are on your spark plugs? If they're coppers, they're only good for 15,000 miles, tops, before you're likely to get problems.
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    They got around 11-12k on them, what else could i run in stead of copper if its any better.?
    04 Comp G..... OVERKILLED/local tune water/meth 3.6, SD headers, 3in catless catback, autolite 104's lowered on SSC's and gxp brakes, DONROME STB.

    1/4mile in 14.03 at 98mph 2.4 60ft
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    copper's are so cheap, just keep running them

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    If you like to change sparkplugs, use coppers. If you dread it, use iridiums.

    Did you take your front plugs out before swapping the manifold? It's possible you cracked a plug.
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    I ran my last set of 104's for like 30K with no problems.
    2000 GTP, 3.2 pulley, SD headers, 3" exhaust, modded 1.9's, custom CAI, LS6 maf, ported blower/ TB, HPT, 65 lb injectors, E85 in the summer, LM-1 wideband, 180 stat, autolite 104's, GMHD suspension kit. 13.2@104 on street tires w/o ported s/c
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