what limits boost

**deangtp** · 04-03-2008

Something in the tune is limiting the boost to only 4 lbs. What is it?

The story.
I have a 2000 GTP that went down for a build up. L26 w/ 9.6.5:1 compression, XP cam, 105's, Dbl rlr, P&P Gen V, P&P heads, P&P LIM, headers, exhaust, all the crap. you know. I previously had a DHP 1.0 PCM and thought I didnt want to try and mess with that and not have anything to fall back on so i went to my local junkyard and picked up a spare. This PCM is in my car right now. I have three different files on my comp that i switch things up with and try to figure this out. With the standard DHP 1.0 file with the proper codes removed it runs great. I see 11.3 lbs of boost and everything is good. The base file that we put in to get the car running will not get but 4 lbs of boost. I went through and looked at the 1.0 file and the base file and changed everything to look like the 1.0 file but no dice. Changed the boost ramp rate. I see 16 inches of vacuum. I know the BBV and actuator are good and in working order. no leaks, no cracks. checked a hundred times. Could the VIN number be the root of my problem. IDK. Just throwing it out there. Sorry for the novel

**Bio248** · 04-03-2008

has to do with the bbv in some way. thats the only thing that limits boost.

**IndeedSS** · 04-03-2008

have you looked at the settings under TQ mgmt dealing with boost?

**deangtp** · 04-03-2008

I can take the DHP 1.0 open it up, look at it and make the spare PCM look exactly like it in every way right down to the codes reporting and everything and it still limits the boost to 4 lbs. Is there something about the VIN number or the OSID that needs to be changed for it to read correctly or am I missing something here. Also, with the spare PCM loaded into the PCM I can see several parameters for the transmission and a couple more for the engine that when I have the DHP 1.0 loaded I cannot see. Whats up with that

**Preotic** · 04-03-2008

I'm not sure if you're suppose to be able to see the DHP 1.0. They don't like people knowing their secrets. Perhaps what your seeing is their way of screwing anybody that does. Just a thought, i'm pretty sure the dhp's are locked.

**deangtp** · 04-04-2008

The PCM is like 4 years old. before tuners were available, before everything went down with ZZP. I paid 300 bucks for it. I'm not using it to make money or send to people or to screw anyone. it is my PCM. but i got it figured out. thanks

**IndeedSS** · 04-04-2008

Originally Posted by deangtp

The PCM is like 4 years old. before tuners were available, before everything went down with ZZP. I paid 300 bucks for it. I'm not using it to make money or send to people or to screw anyone. it is my PCM. but i got it figured out. thanks

You cant say you figured it out and not tell us what you discovered.

**Preotic** · 04-04-2008

Yeah, what was it?

**deangtp** · 04-05-2008

The OSID was not compatible. The PCM turns out to be an L36 PCM with a one bar MAP. Oh well.

**Bio248** · 04-05-2008

dont throw that away or anything.

to run full boost with an l36 pcm just pull out the electrical portion of the bbv and then disconnect the lower vacuum line. thats how i have mine running in order to get full boost. top swapped a while back, never changed to an l67 pcm.

**IndeedSS** · 04-05-2008

Originally Posted by deangtp

The OSID was not compatible. The PCM turns out to be an L36 PCM with a one bar MAP. Oh well.

Well, I guess I missed the part where you were using a L36 bin.

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**deangtp** · 04-05-2008

Did you know that the little box that has the plug in is the Boost Bypass Valve? The black cylindrical thing with plunger like action and vacuum lines connecting it is called the actuator.

**IndeedSS** · 04-06-2008

Originally Posted by deangtp

Did you know that the little box that has the plug in is the Boost Bypass Valve? The black cylindrical thing with plunger like action and vacuum lines connecting it is called the actuator.

I thought it was actuator and solenoid and the valve being the blade in the s/c. But the whole thing commonly refered to as the BBV. I need to look it up, since I've ordered these pieces individually within the past year.

**deangtp** · 04-06-2008

When I first started having these problems, everyone said BBV. So I bought a used one off of a member over on the other forum for 45 bucks. After I put that on and it didnt fix the problem I did some investigating. The BBV and actuator are the same 97-05. If you go to a GM dealership the part numbers go to 98-03. but if you look up an 04 and 05 they are the exact same part number as the 98-03. Yeah i know. It stumped him too.

Actuator kit.. call # 524/ part #89018120
supercharger bypass valve..call # 546/ part # 01997244

**Bio248** · 04-06-2008

if youre truely using an l36 pcm that is your problem. unless you know that already.

just run it straight up vacuum controlled. disconnect it electrically from the system and disconnect the lower vacuum hose. bam, full boost.

**IndeedSS** · 04-06-2008

Originally Posted by deangtp

When I first started having these problems, everyone said BBV. So I bought a used one off of a member over on the other forum for 45 bucks. After I put that on and it didnt fix the problem I did some investigating. The BBV and actuator are the same 97-05. If you go to a GM dealership the part numbers go to 98-03. but if you look up an 04 and 05 they are the exact same part number as the 98-03. Yeah i know. It stumped him too.

Actuator kit.. call # 524/ part #89018120
supercharger bypass valve..call # 546/ part # 01997244

Good info to have posted here

. I looked though all of my purchases from Ed Morad and could not find one referencing the "BBV" parts. There was one receipt but I didn't specify the parts in the Paypal comments section.

**deangtp** · 04-07-2008

VIN 1G2WP52K4YF278575

If I did unplug the vacuum line, that wouldnt be considered a leak? That would make it harder to get out with the tuning, wouldnt it? Also, Why is it that when I have one program loaded I can see numerous things in scanning with the PT and with the other program loaded I can only see a few.

**Bio248** · 04-07-2008

it doesnt cause a vacuum leak if you disconnect the bottom nipple on the bbv. you just cant still have the rest of your vacuum line still hanging there, it would then end at your fuel pressure regulator.

**IndeedSS** · 04-07-2008

Originally Posted by deangtp

VIN 1G2WP52K4YF278575

If I did unplug the vacuum line, that wouldnt be considered a leak? That would make it harder to get out with the tuning, wouldnt it? Also, Why is it that when I have one program loaded I can see numerous things in scanning with the PT and with the other program loaded I can only see a few.

how do the parameters you can edit look when compared to each other? Can you post the two bins provided no one cares?

**deangtp** · 04-08-2008

Well I am not gonna go posting around my 1.0 BIN file silly. That's a big no no and would put a bunch in many a panty. Lets say, you start your car. Go to the scanning and connect and it gives you the drop down for options you would like to see a gauge for and scan for. In my Transmission options for one file(L36 OSID) It shows shift time, gears, temperature, all kinds of stuff. With the other file(L67 OSID) it will only show me the temperature. Why the limited parameters. Should I try and put in the actual L67 PCM? Would that give me the ability to see the missing parameters? Or are the missing viewable parameters part of the 1.0 thing?

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