HPTuners 3.0

**CrazyGuy03** · 02-01-2016

Anyone use it yet?
any thoughts?
any changes for the GM 3800 ?

**SgtMarshal** · 02-01-2016

I guess I'll have to go check it out, has it been officially released?

I found this release statement for others to look at: http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...s-Finally-Here

it looks like there is a serial input function now

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 02-01-2016

It's been out for less than 6 hours, nobody is going to have any thoughts yet.

**CrazyGuy03** · 02-01-2016

Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch

It's been out for less than 6 hours, nobody is going to have any thoughts yet.

thats very untrue and does not contribute anything helpful to the thread

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 02-01-2016

The layout is alot different and uses new names for the VCM scanner. I like a few things they did in the scanner to make it easier to follow where you are while playing back a scan. The new channels display is kinda nice and I'm really hoping the scanner is as fast as they claim, it seemed to bog down sometimes during scanning in my Silverado. The grand prix's use a much dumber PCM so I didn't have this issue.

And I can now tune the VE tables like a GEN 3 V8 computer if I wish too on mine. That was something only a secondary software could do before they started beta testing this a few months ago.

I don't think anything grand prix related has changed, maybe on the V8 side. But the 3800 computers have been out of the game for a long long time and I havent seen anything updated on them in many years.

**SgtMarshal** · 02-01-2016

It looks really different, and it seems histograms are gone to be replaced with graphs, correct me if I'm wrong. I ran out of time before I could find a help file.it looks like boost will be able to be monitored

**CrazyGuy03** · 02-01-2016

Thanks guys.
How about backwards compatibility issues with older tunes ?
I ran into an issue running older tunes files I saved when using the beta or 2.0

**gtpsleeper** · 02-02-2016

I'm just pumped I can tune my 15 Grand Cherokee now.... after a $250 PCM "adjustment" that is (not that I will probably get anything out of tuning a 3.6L Pent).

**CrazyGuy03** · 02-02-2016

Well the Dodge Viper still takes the cake at 20 credits... Wtf

**gtpsleeper** · 02-02-2016

Originally Posted by CrazyGuy03

Well the Dodge Viper still takes the cake at 20 credits... Wtf

True, but lets face it, people who buy Vipers dont really care about dumb investments at a high price because.... well... they bought a Viper.

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 02-02-2016

Don't think of it as credits, you would be paying for a completely custom OS. I think the software on the factory PCM cannot be tuned so they had to make their own and that's where the cost comes in.

**gtpsleeper** · 02-02-2016

^^^^ That actually would make a lot of sense.

**CrazyGuy03** · 02-02-2016

Well I don't want to install it just yet in case it screws up my saved tunes from over the years

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 02-02-2016

3.0 can open all 2.24 and 2.25 beta tunes without a issue.

The only real issue if you want to call it that, is that your custom configs for whatever do not carry over directly. The histogarms do however.

Many members/people hate the fact that all the years they put into making configs are no longer able to work with the 3.0 and they do not wish to remake them all. They say the 3.0 offers a far better and easier setup for configs but I haven't tired it yet. I also don't tune anything but my own stuff really and have made maybe 4-5 configs total in the 4 years I've owned it.

You can just back up your 2.24 and then download 3.0 and have both on your computer.

**Fivefingerdeathpunch** · 02-13-2016

Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch

3.0 can open all 2.24 and 2.25 beta tunes without a issue.

The only real issue if you want to call it that, is that your custom configs for whatever do not carry over directly. The histogarms do however.

Many members/people hate the fact that all the years they put into making configs are no longer able to work with the 3.0 and they do not wish to remake them all. They say the 3.0 offers a far better and easier setup for configs but I haven't tired it yet. I also don't tune anything but my own stuff really and have made maybe 4-5 configs total in the 4 years I've owned it.

You can just back up your 2.24 and then download 3.0 and have both on your computer.

I already answered that. And has been answered 20 times on HP Tuner forums.

Rename it as VCM Suite 2.24. Then the new 3.0 will download it's own file. Then create a short cut for 2.24 on you desktop so you can still open 2.24 when you need too. Otherwise everytime you click vcm editor or scanner it will auto open 3.0.

**SgtMarshal** · 02-14-2016

Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch

I already answered that. And has been answered 20 times on HP Tuner forums.

Rename it as VCM Suite 2.24. Then the new 3.0 will download it's own file. Then create a short cut for 2.24 on you desktop so you can still open 2.24 when you need too. Otherwise everytime you click vcm editor or scanner it will auto open 3.0.

I must be doing it wrong, I have both versions downloaded, and when I install the 3.0 and then try to open 2.24, I get the message that a new version is already downloaded.

on a different topic, I'm a bit happy about the new serial input for widebands. the hp tuners guys are going through the process of getting a lot of different protocols established so you can see the wideband data through a serial port from the actual gauge, and wont need to mess with the a/d inputs. I am a bit curious if the serial input is going to be only available to pro versions of hp tuners.

**2004l67** · 02-24-2016

Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch

The only real issue if you want to call it that, is that your custom configs for whatever do not carry over directly. The histogarms do however.

Many members/people hate the fact that all the years they put into making configs are no longer able to work with the 3.0 and they do not wish to remake them all. They say the 3.0 offers a far better and easier setup for configs but I haven't tired it yet. I also don't tune anything but my own stuff really and have made maybe 4-5 configs total in the 4 years I've owned it.

I have not played with 3.0 much yet, but I'm struggling trying to get my histograms working again. They look like they got blown out whenever I upgraded on my laptop. I see you can import them, but don't have any to import.

Got any working ones you'd mind sharing? Mostly I use the KR/RPM/MAF histogram and the MAF/LTFT one.

I still have Bill's config saved from 2.24, but it doesn't seem to bring the histogram config in with it when I import.

**SgtMarshal** · 02-24-2016

Originally Posted by 2004l67

I have not played with 3.0 much yet, but I'm struggling trying to get my histograms working again. They look like they got blown out whenever I upgraded on my laptop. I see you can import them, but don't have any to import.

Got any working ones you'd mind sharing? Mostly I use the KR/RPM/MAF histogram and the MAF/LTFT one.

I still have Bill's config saved from 2.24, but it doesn't seem to bring the histogram config in with it when I import.

I ended up switching back to 2.24. when you import your histograms to 3.0, you have to click "up one level" when you try to import a new graph. also, the histogram may not work like it did with 2.24. I'm waiting for them to get the serial input method done before I try to mess with 3.0 again.