Forgot to mention the gun I use is ingersoll's 2135timax10yr with what they advertise as 1100 ft/lbs. Pretty sure it's actually around 780 ft/lbs. Very strong gun though, that's what broke the hf sockets.

Shallow sockets wouldn't help me at all being I have swivel sockets, the gun is to large to fit in small spaces anyway, so an extension and swivel socket get in that same place.