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  1. #1 Will rocker arms require a retune? 
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    Got me 3.4 pulley and headers in today. My question is if I decide to add rocker arms in the near future will i need a retune?
    2000 GTP coupe. Wizaired intake. 3.4 pulley, Overkill tune, and Speed Daddy's waiting to be put on.
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    You can just add the rockers without extra tuning if you want, but to get the maximum benefit out of them you should increase your shift points to get the most out of them.
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    put some 90 lb or 105 lb springs on if you do rockers and rev that thing all the way to 6000 rpm's. you will notice a big difference if you are still on a stock tune.
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    My car already holds 1st gear to right around 5900 RPM anyways so how beneficial would that be to me? 2nd shift however only goes to 5500 before shifting to 3rd. But I can always hold it in 2nd for just a little bit longer. Thats what I did at the dragstrip so it would hold 2nd gear through the traps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Al View Post
    My car already holds 1st gear to right around 5900 RPM anyways so how beneficial would that be to me? 2nd shift however only goes to 5500 before shifting to 3rd. But I can always hold it in 2nd for just a little bit longer. Thats what I did at the dragstrip so it would hold 2nd gear through the traps.
    just because its up there doesnt mean its making any decent power. rockers will allow more air in so you will be making better power the higher the RPM's.
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    Think I'll hold off on valve springs until I get some better flowing heads. Don't really wanna pull the heads just to put valve springs in.
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    You don't need to pull the heads for springs, Its easy to do on car
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    Good to know. Ive been told that you have to. Is that the case with some engines or is that just complete BS?
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    Taking the valve springs off when the heads are still on is a little harder. You don't want the valves to fall down into the engine, and so you need a tool which will put compression into the engine and hold the valves up. If the heads are already off changing the springs is easy, but taking the heads off to change the springs doesn't make sense
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    What kind of tool?
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    its called a air compressor lol you put air into the cylinder to keep the valves up while you unlock the springs and swap them out. dont forget to change the valve seals while doing the springs.

    you also need a spring compressor too.

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    One way to do it is to take a spark plug out and blow air in through there. I've never actually done it, that's just how I've heard people do it
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    how i got it done ^^^^^


    black hose on the right is the compressor hose, that shinny star wheel a top the blower there is the spring compressor tool.

    it was hot as hell and i need to make shade to work under lol



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    Noted... About what kind of hp gains will a 3.4, 1.9's, speed daddys and a tune give me?
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    Probably 240 wheel or so.
    "Lets just throw more boost at it and see what happens" -Frosty
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    thats what i have now. seat of the pants dyno says it feels good. way better then stock.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Rockers + 105lb springs are a easy job and make NICE seat of the pants gains along with raised shift points
    "Lets just throw more boost at it and see what happens" -Frosty
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    better vid.

    no real need to put the each cylinder to tdc.


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    I did it as well with heads on the car, piece of cake w/compressor and spark plug adapter. Adapter is available at Harbor Frieght for cheap along with spring compressor. Doing lim job at same time takes things out of the way of course. Ported SC & TB along with the YT 1.9's, headers & 3" exhaust all the way makes a huge difference over stock (with tune). Instant throttle response and lots of head room on the highway. Have yet to feel it give up on me and I've had the speedometer pinned! Worth the investment if you don't want to totally tear into engine. But for a few $ more and some more elbow grease you can do a cam build and get even more... It all just depends what you want and how deep your pockets are : )
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