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    Turbo without a doubt has the best potential, but doing a Turbo sometimes isn't as easy as bolting on a kit like many have experianced on the other board. Seems like people have PCV issues to work out, running catch cans, etc to get everything just right.

    Not only that, but you damn near have to have a GMR 1" chain in your tranny, not to mention all the hard parts and preferably a GMR diff. With the GMR 1" chain being discontined, its going to suck for future turbo guys going through 15/16" and 7/8" chains all the time.

    Next thing I personally think you need to run a high powered and realible (keyword: REAILIBLE) turbo setup is having a built block with at least forged slugs on the bottom end. Again many have experianced chunking pistons left and right with full intercooled even alky setups. People don't seem to realize that the stock pistons are only so strong and forged is really the way to go, especially on a DD/track car. Yes I know ZZP runs stock bottom ends, but I guarantee a couple of there most notable cars are rarely see DD duty and you know they've replaced many bottom ends over the years racing them. Nothing complares to a durable properly built bottom end for realiable power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Indian View Post
    Not only that, but you damn near have to have a GMR 1" chain in your tranny, not to mention all the hard parts and preferably a GMR diff. With the GMR 1" chain being discontined, its going to suck for future turbo guys going through 15/16" and 7/8" chains all the time.

    Next thing I personally think you need to run a high powered and realible (keyword: REAILIBLE) turbo setup is having a built block with at least forged slugs on the bottom end. Again many have experianced chunking pistons left and right with full intercooled even alky setups. People don't seem to realize that the stock pistons are only so strong and forged is really the way to go, especially on a DD/track car. Yes I know ZZP runs stock bottom ends, but I guarantee a couple of there most notable cars are rarely see DD duty and you know they've replaced many bottom ends over the years racing them. Nothing complares to a durable properly built bottom end for realiable power.
    ZZP has 20 sets of 1" chains ready to be purcha$ed and might be working on a deal to get a manufacturer to do more of them, but I doubt they sell 20 chains out in the next few years.

    Forged is expensive and its just insurance, stock blocks go for cheap these days and can take the power, just no the knock. I agree it's easier said than done though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    i agree, the new twin charge setup from zzp is pretty badass, but it will never beat a single turbo setup.
    Twin charged will always be better than a single turbo setup but is damn expensive and a whole new tuning experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisb View Post
    wouldnt you guys say that a sc car can go faster on less hp then a turbo because of the lowend of a sc? or am i just crazy?
    Turbo's are more much more efficient than superchargers. Superchargers will rob some power to make the rotors spin that fast. You hear of turbo "lag" in turbo setups when they use larger turbo's for more power, the lag happens when it takes a bit to spool up such a large turbo. Most grand prix turbo setups do not have this problem until you have a larger turbo or breaking 500+ hp
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