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  1. #1 What do you think about this TV? 
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    Looking for a new TV for college. Im willing to spend up to $500. Me and my roommate with a PS3 will be sharing this tv for the year. I also have an Xbox 360 and plan on playing a lot one november hits and like 30 good games come out on the same week.
    Amazon.com: VIZIO 32 Inch Class Theater 3D LCD HDTV with VIZIO Internet AppsĀ®: Televisions & Video

    Now be hesitant before you go and hate on the 3D. Ill admit there isnt very much going for it right now, but I still think it would be nice to have. The Xbox360 supports 3D games (Black ops for example) But not very many, at least compared to the PS3. I also dont yet have a blu-ray player to play 3D movies. One awesome thing about it is that even though it comes with 2 pairs of glasses, you can just take the glasses from the movie theater and use those since its the same type of 3D. The only thing i dont like about the TV is that even though you can use the Vudu app on the TV itself, you cant stream 3D movies from it, the 3D data has to go through the HDMI ports. I think my college has HD channels, but im not entirely sure. If you dont like that TV find me one that is 40+ inches for that price. (Wont be 3D, and probably wont have online apps, but I also have an Xbox with netflix, facebook, ect.)
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    Yep, that looks like a T.V...
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    It says you will be saving 21.99! Thats 4% savings! Obvi you have to get it. To great of a deal to turn down, buy 2
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    Look at Hannspree 32''. Love it, great looking and it doesnt destroy your wallet!
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    Thanks but the only reason im considering a 32" is because anything over that with 3D is outrageous. I will have this TV for many many years.
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    I think those that are all excited about 3D TVs are going to be really disappointed. Most people are thinking of their theater experiences when thinking of 3D, but what they're forgetting is that at the theater, the movie is on a gigantic screen that usually exceeds the range of your peripheral vision, so the 3D takes on a totally different perspective, engulfing you in the "realistic" feel. On the other hand, it's not going to be even a fraction as cool at home even on a 60" screen (much less a 32") when you can see the wall behind the TV, the TV stand, etc all around those 3D elements popping out at you. It will kill the feel and experience quite a bit.

    Also, 3D is stupidly overpriced right now, as with any technology when it first comes out. Every year or two, another excuse for upping the price of flat panels happens. First LCD came along, which was "better" than plasma (which is a load of crap, BTW). Then came along the jump from 720p resolution to 1080p. Then came 120hz LCD to help eliminate the motion blur inherent to LCD TVs. Oh, then you had to replace your 120hz LCD because now we have the technology to double that with 240hz!! OK, now you have to replace the 240hz regular LCD with an LED back lit 240hz LCD! OK, now you have to can those, because now there's 240hz LED back lit 3D LCD TVs! Oh, BTW, that Blu-ray player you just bought? Toss that out with the TV, because it won't play 3D movies. It's a gimmick, people. Stop believing or buying everything you're told to.

    As far as that TV specifically, 3D or not, that is WAY too much money for a 32" flat panel TV this day and age. Keep in mind that if you're going to keep this TV "for many, many years", you want to buy something you'll still be happy with at home. A 32" is OK as a monitor, or small bedroom TV, etc. but beyond that, 32" on a 16:9 ratio is going to look pathetically small. Not something you're going to be too happy with in the long run should you use it as the main TV (living/family room, home theater setup in a basement, etc). Ask yourself what would you rather have; a giant screen to enjoy your movies and games on with an excellent picture for years to come, but no 3D capability, OR would you prefer to buy a tiny TV because that's all you can afford on a 3D capable TV, and there's a possibility that 3D will really take off in the future/you will eventually buy a 3D Blu-ray player?

    I would say don't worry about the 3D part. That technology will be dirt cheap by the time you're out of school anyway, so if you're still hell bent on getting a TV with that, I'd wait till then. I'd also not worry about the online apps part. No TV or Blu-ray player is going to come close to the user interface or performance quality of the Xbox or PS3, so since you have an Xbox already, you have that covered. I would just concentrate on finding the most screen real estate you can for the dollar. For example, just over a year ago, I got a Samsung 50" plasma on sale for $550 from Fry's. More than a year later, that same TV still retails for $800, and the cheapest I can find it on sale for right now is $600.

    Lastly, Slickdeals: The Best Deals, Coupons & Discounts on Laptops, Computers, LCDs, TVs, Dell, HP, Apple, Amazon is your friend. Best place to look for a bargain price on ANYTHING. If there is a crazy sale price on anything on this planet at any retail or online store, someone on that board has seen it, and will post about it. Though I will warn you, it is an addictive site that can ruin you financially. Right now, I'm operating from a desk I found on sale on there, typing on a keyboard which is attached to a computer I put together with parts I found on there, all while staring at a 24" monitor I found on there. I believe their motto is "the cheapest way to go broke".

    And if you have any questions about TV technology, please feel free to ask. I did quite a bit of researching the last 3 or so years before finally pulling the trigger on a purchase for myself.
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    College?

    You want cheap ****.

    Because it can get stolen.

    Or broken.

    More readily than compared to home.

    As for 3D issue.... Most of the better sets seem to come with 3D.

    Refresh rate doesn't help TBH.

    Sony's motionflow makes everything look terrible.

    So why you'd see 240 Hz as being better than 120 is beyond me.

    Now if the 3D works on the basis of 60 fps for one eye and 60 fps for the other.... using glasses that are synced to the TV to "close" one eye then the other with rapid succession.... 120 Hz is useful there.

    Also useful when displaying 23.99 FPS movies granted everything in the chain supports it.
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    If I were you I would try to get an older Samsung 120hz 1080p TV. 3D TVs are crap right now. 240hz is just gimmick and anyone who says they can tell the difference between 120hz and 240hz is lying.

    Don't get tricked into buying the HDMI cables in a store either. You can get them off the internet for a lot cheaper and they work the same.
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    I know that 120hz is overkill/a lie. the eye can only see 30 FPS anyways. contrast ratio matters even less.

    I think I will reconsider... I know its pretty expensive for a 32" but you aslo have to understand that im watching/playing everythin on a sub 20" CRT right now. I will probably start looking at 40"+ 1080p screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoRoW99 View Post
    I know that 120hz is overkill/a lie. the eye can only see 30 FPS anyways. contrast ratio matters even less.
    It's not overkill per se. It's just that to me, it's not an ideal way to tackle the motion blur problem inherent to LCDs because getting rid of all motion in the background actually ends up giving the picture that cheap "home movie" type look to it. I've seen a bunch of shows with the 120hz and 240hz on, and they ALL look like they've been shot with some ordinary home camcorder as opposed to being shot professionally. Now perhaps that doesn't bother some, but I can't stand how that looks. Totally ruins the feel of the movie to me when the entire film looks like some "behind the scenes" footage.



    Quote Originally Posted by JoRoW99 View Post
    I know its pretty expensive for a 32" but you aslo have to understand that im watching/playing everythin on a sub 20" CRT right now.
    Understood, but keep in mind your 20" CRT is a 4:3 ratio screen. A 32" in 16:9 would literally be no taller than a 25" or so CRT. It would just be wider. You said you want to have this TV for many, many years to come. Knowing how small a 32" would still be, do you think you'd still like it as your main TV when you get out of school?



    Quote Originally Posted by JoRoW99 View Post
    I will probably start looking at 40"+ 1080p screens.
    Good idea, but don't get too caught up in the 1080p thing, either. Even though that's been out far longer than the 3D thing, it still has nearly as little content to take advantage of the feature.

    #1 Very, very little HD TV broadcasts are in 1080p. The vast majority are still 720p, and a very compressed 720p at that. Even if it's in 1080p, you're getting it through that same horribly compressed broadcast, so the quality still won't truly be 1080p.

    #2 Most video games are in 720p upscaled to 1080i, not p.

    #3 With Blu-ray DVDs, only the more recent movies have been transferred in high enough quality to appreciate what HD can do for you. a LOT of the older movies that have been transferred to Blu-ray have been done very poorly. The studios have thrown them together just to say there's a Blu-ray copy of it out there, and since most people don't know better and assume a Blu-ray DVD always = better, they'll buy it all over again even if they already have a DVD copy. In fact, there are websites devoted to rating how good the Blu-ray copies of movies are vs. the original DVDs, and what you'll find quite often on some of the older movies is many reviewers will say the upscaled DVD looks BETTER than the Blu-ray copy.

    #4 That aside, even when looking at high quality transfers, the only time the difference between the two resolutions is visible to the human eye is with CG content. Otherwise, very few people could tell the difference between a 720p vs. 1080p picture when viewing them from 8' or further back side by side on a 50" or smaller screen. What's FAR more important is the NATIVE/TRUE contrast (not dynamic, which is useless since there is no standard for those numbers). Picture quality > gimmicky BS.

    What I'm getting at is if you can find a great deal on a 1080p, I'd say go for it. But if you find a killer deal on a 720p like I did, I wouldn't turn my nose up at it.
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    This is why I posted a thread on this site, I knew there would be people with much better info and experience than me. Thanks you everyone.
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    There is a difference between 720P and 1080P but, how close you sit will determine if you see the difference. On a tv under 46" I would most likely go with 720P. Plasma is still best IMO but, what works for you is key.
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