Thread: Developing Headers

there are already cheap sets that they will have no way of beating.

but if they want to, tell them to reproduce S&S headers. make the primaries bigger if they want, but the headers were fine as is.

If you could develop some equal length headers I think those would sell because there are none in the 3800 market but those wouldn't be cheap.

eh, it really depends on the price. If marketed correctly yeah, they would make money.

I say run em under the subrame and be a boss like Ron Vogel. 2" primaries.

Man up.

Well they're not going to beat the price of slave labor headers like SD so why not try to do something new, I think that's their best shot.

Originally Posted by footballplaya3k

If you could develop some equal length headers I think those would sell because there are none in the 3800 market but those wouldn't be cheap.

lol at this statement. think of how you'd be able to do this, then get back to us. you'd have to make the rear header so ungodly long and stupid looking to make it even come close to the front header length it's not even funny.

think again, we are never getting equal length headers.

Originally Posted by Bio248

lol at this statement. think of how you'd be able to do this, then get back to us. you'd have to make the rear header so ungodly long and stupid looking to make it even come close to the front header length it's not even funny.

think again, we are never getting equal length headers.

ever

Originally Posted by matt5112

headers that fit, flow, seal and are stainless.

this.

Something on the cheap side like SD Headers with a better Downpipe that's less likely to hit things, and runners on the front bank that don't stick out so far as to rub the cooling fans would be great. Do something like that at a comparable price and you'll sell lots.

3" primaries

Also, if it were my job, and some higher-up asked me what platform to make headers for that would have a good market, I wouldn't have said "Build headers for the GM W-body."

I hope your career isn't on the line.

Originally Posted by Bio248

lol at this statement. think of how you'd be able to do this, then get back to us. you'd have to make the rear header so ungodly long and stupid looking to make it even come close to the front header length it's not even funny.

think again, we are never getting equal length headers.

Instead of being a douche bag why don't you tell him your idea. You must have one since you're bashing mine, right?

Originally Posted by footballplaya3k

Instead of being a douche bag why don't you tell him your idea. You must have one since you're bashing mine, right?

i did. let me quote it for you.

Originally Posted by Bio248

there are already cheap sets that they will have no way of beating.

but if they want to, tell them to reproduce S&S headers. make the primaries bigger if they want, but the headers were fine as is.

S&S headers are no longer manufactured. they were the best sealing, easiest install headers out there. they also ran a smaller primary and a 2.5" downpipe making them FANTASTIC headers for anyone running a mild to medium build on their w-body. they are the ORIGINAL two piece headers.

youre welcome.

If it's not under $200 and they don't install themselves, they probably will not sell mass quantities. Maybe if it were 7 years ago there would be more of a market, but not these days.

But the primaries would probably be 1 5/8ths and 1 3/4ths max, keep the rear header and crossover one piece, leave the lower downpipe flange in an easy access spot and v-band. Also put the 02 sensor bung on the crossover near cyl. #6, the values will be the same from the front bank to the rear bank and very easy to access. Possibly leave a bung for wideband. 3" downpipe with direct bolt on to factory catback. Also if you could upsweep the primaries that would be awesome.

The $200 SpeedDaddy headers seem to be what everybody wants since they are stainless and cheap. If you could develop headers that were superior to those and close in price, you could have a winner. The problems I have seen with the SpeedDaddy headers are the sink trap in the down pipe, the flex section is cheap (should be an interlocking flex) and the crossover does not line up well. I agree with Bio that the S&S design would be a good one to copy instead of the SLP headers that SpeedDaddy copied.