I obviously did read because I said If they are the exact same design of pace setters. Meaning they copied the design which in turn is a knock off, but it should be the exact design if done properly. I don't need the attitude I just wanted to understand the situation maybe I could have been of some help because I have pacesetters and these are supposed to be that design. Don't understand why you gotta be such a dickhead bro its a forum about cars...