Thread: To buy or not to buy a gtp

As far as dependability goes all depends how previous owners took care of it

trouble spots Valve cover recall for leaking oil and causing fires, lim leaking coolant into oil and causing engine to seize, And depending on regular upkeep and how hard it was driven the trans is a weak spot

Mine has 185000 on it all origenal except the blower cause the coupler went bad
Have had it around 8000 miles no issues

3000 is a fair price

Drive it a few times and make sure you like it otherwise go for it

I would say go for it. Just check to see if there is any coolant sitting on the intake if so you have to replace the lim gaskets. Has it been modded? If so what is done to it?

^ what they said as well as the pass side cv joints have been known to be a bit of a weak spot aswell. the outter boot tears and slings grease EVERYWHERE until u replace it. its easy to tell if this has happened just look on the underside of the hood on the mat there is often grease on it if the boot is shot. also drive it a few times an also beat on it just a little to make sure no lights trip. if all is good go for it!

140k miles is where these things brake down if it wasn't kept up.

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Originally Posted by speedemongtp

^ what they said as well as the pass side cv joints have been known to be a bit of a weak spot aswell. the outter boot tears and slings grease EVERYWHERE until u replace it. its easy to tell if this has happened just look on the underside of the hood on the mat there is often grease on it if the boot is shot. also drive it a few times an also beat on it just a little to make sure no lights trip. if all is good go for it!

First time I've ever heard this in 7 years on GP boards... CV joint just fail. That falls into the regular maintance/**** happens catagory. Then again I have 170,000 mile CV joints in my white car so what do I know? Though they feel shot, they ain't flinging grease, LOL. They will be rebuilt or replaced soon.

Other than valve cover gaskets, LIM gaskets, S/C coupler... as long as it was taken care of the car will last many years and make it well past 200k easily depends on what you do to it. Don't let people scare you about the tranny, again as long as it was kept up maintance wise it should be good. I got 155,000 miles out of mine and I drove the living piss out of it for years and decently modded too. Sad part is, I never broke it, I swapped in a heavy duty tranny because I wanted the hard parts for slicks and different gearing and a stall.

I have two high mileage GTPs, one with 170,000 miles and the other with 150,000 miles. I've had no problems with either car and there both DDs. Maintence is the key and I think some people look over some of these easiest things to do.

Good luck on you purchase, as long as it was taken care of 100,000 ain't nothing...

if you know how to work on cars then just get a GT and top swap it. youll save money and your insurance will be lower.

Originally Posted by E90 87SS GTP

I read a lot of problems with the transmission. Something to keep in mind.

And like I said, there either not taken care of or well over 100,000 miles. A 4T65 is alot better transmission than people make it out to be. Considering its damn near pushed to the limits in a stock GTP (going off factory ratings) and the extra abuse it gets with mods and people racing all the time, its a damn good tranny for what it is I think. I'll say it again, maintence plays a big role IMO.

If the car was maintenced properly, wasn't modded too extreme (minor bolt ons), and wasn't beaten to harsh there shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't last100,000 -150,000 easy enough. I've had no problems getting 150,000 out of 2 GTPs, and both were intercooled, daily drivers, and raced regularly too.

your rear windows could not work due to the window motors/regulators which would need to be replaced. Those are fairly common to go out on our cars. If it were me I would try and get an extra $500 out of him to do it.

I would go for it!

Just double check to make sure that the rear doors have the child safety locks!! For whatever reason, my 2003 does not have them .... Pontiac corporate offices said they were an option. Though I don't believe them, I might get a new door to fix that. You won't need the child lock now, but when your kid is 2-3, you will need them for sure! .... so my 3 year old doesn't get to ride in my car, just my wife's truck. (guess that means I coulda got an f-body, GTO, or vette... oh well)

Sounds like it'd be a good deal, and there's waaay more room for the stroller, diaper bag, toys, etc, etc in the grand prix than in the Neon too. Not having a car payment will make things a lot easier for you as well because diapers are ridiculously expensive....even if you get them at Sams/Costco..

Good luck!
Jesse

Originally Posted by Iron Indian

And like I said, there either not taken care of or well over 100,000 miles. A 4T65 is alot better transmission than people make it out to be. Considering its damn near pushed to the limits in a stock GTP (going off factory ratings) and the extra abuse it gets with mods and people racing all the time, its a damn good tranny for what it is I think. I'll say it again, maintence plays a big role IMO.

With the exception of some issues in the valve body (TCC apply valve, pressure control solenoid, etc) it's a pretty good transmission. Mine was in perfect shape when I sold it. Fluid had been changed three times while I owned it.

Originally Posted by Sabrewings

With the exception of some issues in the valve body (TCC apply valve, pressure control solenoid, etc) it's a pretty good transmission. Mine was in perfect shape when I sold it. Fluid had been changed four times while I owned it.

True, PCS is a problem. But hell both my 150k trannys ran great, so I can't really complain at all.

What kinda miles did you have on that Impala anyway? Sounded like you kept up with maintence on your tranny. There are alot out there who don't...