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  1. #501 Re: 2000 GTP...and so it begins...(LOTS of PICS) 
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    Productive couple of days, I accomplished everything I wanted to. Yesterday I finished my FWI, I'll upgrade to 4 inch whenever I can find 4 inch parts (not anytime soon) but this'll do for now. Today I not only finished the power windows, but I mounted the crossover to the new GXP rear seats, cut the old rubber mat so not my entire back seat folds down, and fixed the crooked tweeters up front. I might update the firmware on the head unit later, but that takes 2-3 hour since I have to re-root everything in Android, install torque, Viper4Android, Powramp, all kinds of stuff. Here's a few pics and a video. I accidently got some Peel n seal on the driver side window, but it'll wipe off...everything worked perfectly:

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    Tweeter, they sound great, but are huge.


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    That fwi looks like what I'm gonna try and build. Is it just one straight peice to a 90 down?
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    great job on the pics, and you are doing very well. i have a 2000 gtp coupe. you have almost double the miles on me, my question for you is how are the shocks and struts, in mine i bounce way to much and have to replace it all.
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    I already replaced them all, I have the blue Monroe's up front and black ones out back. They're only to hold me over until next tax season, when I'll get some Excel-Gs or something a lot better. Everything suspension wise has been replaced, except for the lateral arms and control arms. The control arms has been replaced at some point before I got the car though. They handle much better than stock, but that's probably the other suspension upgrades and wider tires that did it.

    For the FWI, I cleaned up the stock accordion air tube with dish soap and a dawn scrubby, stuffed the PVC all the way past the accordion section, and stuffed the old rubber coupler on the new PVC, and put a shorter filter on the old PVC. This is the old PVC:

    You can kinda see it in the bumper here, the rubber coupler does flex a bit, but it seals fine:
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    I have the short ram so I'll have to try it eventually. Looks cheap good!
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    The PVC was 18 inches long. You'll probably want 4 inch. I can't buy anything 4 inch around here because it's too big for building code or something like that. Eventually I'll get 4 inch, or buy a S pipe, like this:
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    I will use 3.5 cause I have an 06 and it'll fit my maf and stuff
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    Good point, it's easier to get the parts anyways.
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    Wow, so it's been almost 2 months and not much has really happened...well, a few things. I picked up an Orion 2150SX amp from a buddy of mine for $30 my JL W3 in the trunk. It puts out a massive 600w RMS @ 4 ohms and that's at 12v and under rated. They put out 700+w RMS on a regular basis, in a running car and it's all with less that 1% THD. It replaced my old Pioneer 250w RMS @ 4 ohm, lol. I also picked up a line converter to eliminate some noise from it all, still working out the kinks on that. I also bought some ER rockers today, they'll be shipped out on Monday so we'll see when the install happens.

    Oh yea, thanks to Scotty, I have Bill's trans-tune and my rear 02 sensor codes deleted, and a few other goodies. I mailed him my spare PCM, so I have a stock fallback at anytime...but that won't happen soon. Scotty is the man, and he knows this Thanks again man.

    That was actually a HUGE moment for me...I actually got to put all the lights back in the dash (Service Engine Soon). That's a first since I've owned the car. First I took the ABS, TCS Off, SES, and Low Coolant lights out, and slowly they've been coming back.
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    Yea...Scotty is the mofo schitz....Lol he is a big help! He referred me to BillBoosts PCM Tune and a Trans-Go Shift Kit.

    I haven't purchased either of them yet because I'm doing some maintenance to my ride before I start modding as suggested in another thread. When I'm ready, I'm going PM BillBoost for the details on the Tune.

    Are you going to install the rockers yourself?
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    Oh yea, I do everything myself, except for alignments and welding work (I don't have a welder). Tore the engine down, rebuilt the transmission, rebuilt the suspension, the interior, etc. There is a little bit better way to install the Transgo Shift kit, IMO. Basically install everything like it tells you in the 2-3 accumulator, then install everything the same way in the 1-2 accumulator.

    I see you are upgrading your alternator in your sig, which one are you going with?
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    I was just reading through you thread, wow...you have a lot of posts....Lol! I haven't finished reading, but I have to say you are giving her a lot of T.L.C. My ride looks similar to yours before you started working on her. Mines is a 2 door though and a 97 GTP.
    Yea, I have a Bosch 160+ Amps.
    It seems to be working really good, all the electrical stuff seems to work a hell of a lot better. I don't have no sound system installed as of yet neither.

    You put a lot of work into her and I'm loving it.

    Lol...now back to reading your thread, it's going to take forever to finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booba5185 View Post
    Finally back at it, my wife has been pretty sick from pregnancy so I've been taking care of both my son and her. She's starting to feel better more of the time, so I have some time to get back to the car. I went to the JY today and picked up some brake upgrades. Originally I was going to just buy the caliper brackets off of a Deville, and buy the rotors\pads new (giving me the 12 inch brake upgrade). When I found the Deville at the JY the rotors and pads looked damn near brand new, other than the rust. I asked the guy that worked there how much he'd want for rotors and brackets, and he said $30. I went ahead and bought them so he gave me the pads for free. I normally wouldn't use used rotors and pads but these look so close to new I'll try it out.


    I set up a hot tank to clean the rust off of the rotors using electrolysis, so we'll see how they turn out. I took a plastic drawer from on of the tool storage rubbermaid things, covered the bottom in some scrap nails I had, then took some old pushrods (from when my truck was flat tappet), clamped them to the out sides of the drawer (making sure that they made contact with the nails at the bottom), then connected all the push rods with some bail wire. Then I hung the rotor in the middle of it all from a prybar and some bolts, making sure it did NOT make contact with anything. Then submersed the rotor in a water\washing soda mix (1TBS:1GAL of water). Once I made sure nothing was making contact with anything I took an OLD battery charger I had laying around and connected the negative cable to the rotor and the positive cable to the nails\pushrods.


    I used a similar process with great (although not very fast) results on my truck's heads, so we'll see how these turn out.


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    The rest of the brake parts, both rotors were in the same condition:

    I'm sure I'll still need the rotors turned, but I'd like to clean them off as much as possible while I still can.
    This was when I used this method on my heads, I think the rotors will work better. Less water, more metal to clean it, etc.

    This was something like 13 hours later:
    What is this technique you used on you rotors called. They look brand new!
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    That technique is called electrolysis. I used an old battery charger, water, and washing soda. The process basically pulls electricity through the part you are cleaning and as the electricity is pulled through the part it brings the dirt\rust\paint\whatever with it. Have a 100% metal container to "soak" everything in is best, but you can use some like a garbage can with chicken wire lining the sides, etc. For the rotors I used a rubber-made container with scrap nails spread all across the bottom, then clamped old Ford push rods to the sides (with the ends of the rods in the nails), and then connected all the rods with bailing wire. Red neck, yes. But it worked, lol. It takes time, too o you can't really be in a hurry. I need to do a write up on it, but work\kids\work\car keep getting in the way, lol.

    Rockers get here in a few days so they'll be going in this weekend. Next step for the engine side of things after that is a pulley drop. I'm thinking I might chance it and run a 3.4". From what I've read thats the same as running a 3.2-3.3" on a Gen 3, so we'll just have to see. I've never really had a problem with KR.
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    Lol....I like your redneck ways! So, after all that I just need to put water in there or some other kind of solution. I have a 5 gallon metal bucket would that work?

    Yea a write up this would be good, but them write ups take a lot time...Lol! Good luck on the rockers pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip97GTP View Post
    Lol....I like your redneck ways! So, after all that I just need to put water in there or some other kind of solution. I have a 5 gallon metal bucket would that work?

    Yea a write up this would be good, but them write ups take a lot time...Lol! Good luck on the rockers pal.
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    I've used electrolysis before as well on rusty tools and it does work great. Add arm and hammer washing soda to the water for best results.
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    Yea that'll work, just do it in a well ventilated area. I originally read this, but it's been awhile

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    Thanks for the link! I definitely going to do this.
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    This electrolysis sounds like it could be dangerous. I don't if I should go with doing this
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    Ventilation is the main part, and using Washing (not Baking) soda. I did it in my shed and left the door open while the process was going on. I never had any problems at all, and I've done all kinds of stuff. I even set up a test outside and tried intentionally setting it on fire and nothing happened. Kinda disappointing really.
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