J-Liss Soon to be self tuned-corn fed stock w-body.

**TLSheff** · 01-02-2013

As far as projectors go, if you're up for the challenge.

Search "retro projector" for 97-03, couple threads on it

The Spyder single housings with halos, have poor light output, bouncing problems, and thin brackets that break once tightened.

Stock or retro is the best way depending on what you want. HIDs optional

**dsmuts** · 01-02-2013

If you have enough to hear it your motor is junk. You can't get that sealer at az I don't think. I got mine at Napa

**JLiss** · 01-02-2013

Originally Posted by TLSheff

As far as projectors go, if you're up for the challenge.

Search "retro projector" for 97-03, couple threads on it

The Spyder single housings with halos, have poor light output, bouncing problems, and thin brackets that break once tightened.

Stock or retro is the best way depending on what you want. HIDs optional

Yea that is what i am noticing, i did the the stock housing but blacked out, (from the inside) caught my eye, all my cars have HID's so thats a for sure, b but i hate how Open lamp headlights look iwth HID, just ricey to me. o well i may grab one of the ones off ebay, and modify it.

edit. is that what people are doing, getting projector headlights and just swapping out the lense, thats not to hard to do at all.

Originally Posted by dsmuts

If you have enough to hear it your motor is junk. You can't get that sealer at az I don't think. I got mine at Napa

No, that would mean your tune sucks, or your having some sort of over-heating issues that is cause pre-detonation IE (cylinder walls to hot) i usually take my cars tune to further limits than customer cars, although 1-2kr isnt much, i have seen 4-5 thats when it is audible and i dial it waay back. 0 kr all around is obvi what we want to aim for. autozone has it, just checked actually. unless it is a special order. i do prefer napa.

**TLSheff** · 01-03-2013

Originally Posted by JLiss

Yea that is what i am noticing, i did the the stock housing but blacked out, (from the inside) caught my eye, all my cars have HID's so thats a for sure, b but i hate how Open lamp headlights look iwth HID, just ricey to me. o well i may grab one of the ones off ebay, and modify it.

edit. is that what people are doing, getting projector headlights and just swapping out the lense, thats not to hard to do at all.

HID Projectors from The Retrofit Source Inc
The Morimoto projectors, with a HID kit. Take the stock housings, bake them and pull lens off. Paint housing and modify the projector into place, seal lens back on and install.

**dsmuts** · 01-02-2013

I've had 8* before when I was having issues and it wasn't audible

**JLiss** · 01-02-2013

at 8* im sure it was, prolly didnt hear it main. im suprised you didnt damage anything unless it was fake KR.

**dsmuts** · 01-02-2013

I've never heard of anyone hearing KR before. It was a lean/exhaust leak issue.

**JLiss** · 01-02-2013

Originally Posted by dsmuts

I've never heard of anyone hearing KR before. It was a lean/exhaust leak issue.

ah, like i said 8* would of did some serious damage, because KR already occured/happened when you see it, unless its false KR.

HowStuffWorks "Premium Gasoline and Engine Knock"

**dsmuts** · 01-02-2013

I know how KR works and what it is. 8* once didn't do any damage on my car. I fixed the leak and it was fine. It all depends on the shape of the car as to how detrimental the KR will be to that specific car.

**JLiss** · 01-03-2013

Originally Posted by dsmuts

I know how KR works and what it is. 8* once didn't do any damage on my car. I fixed the leak and it was fine. It all depends on the shape of the car as to how detrimental the KR will be to that specific car.

that link wasnt to show you what KR is, it was a respectable/trust worthy/known website, that explained how you can hear KR. there are many others, but if you cant hear it on this platform then you cant hear it, but it CAN be heard.

Im going to meet up with a Local member maybe this weekend or next when everything is done, to do some logs and see what is going on with the engine.

Anyway to check on the PCM if it is a ZZP PCM?

**darkhorizon** · 01-02-2013

you wont ever hear knock in a l67... no matter what setup you have.

**dsmuts** · 01-03-2013

Do your fans stay on after you shut the car off? If so then there has been work done on the pcm

**JLiss** · 01-03-2013

Originally Posted by dsmuts

Do your fans stay on after you shut the car off? If so then there has been work done on the pcm

GREAT call, we thought that was very weird, the car was on, and we turned it off, key's out. and randomly the fan kicks on, and me and my other mechanic buddy look at each other like

?

But there is a sticker on the engine bay that says "caution fans turn on with engine off"

**DanPrixGTP** · 01-03-2013

My car regularly see's 6.5 - 7* KR at the top of 2nd.

She has yet to blow.

**JLiss** · 01-03-2013

Originally Posted by DanPrixGTP

My car regularly see's 6.5 - 7* KR at the top of 2nd.

She has yet to blow.

yea that sounds about right.

**DanPrixGTP** · 01-03-2013

To bad i got it tuned.

Doesnt see that high KR anymore.

Im in the clear. Thankfully.

**JLiss** · 01-04-2013

Good stuff TLshelf, but for the price of the projects i may as well grab some aftermarket headlight assemblies, assuming the lighting wont be as good, but adequete, and go to a junk yard and rip off a better lense off another car, but it would be a fun project.

Man the more and more the owner tells me the fails he did in this car the more iim thinking this thing is going to bust on me, he said he was running 87 gas on it for like 6 months and beating on it.

It still runs good. i cant wait to pull the plugs and have a look at them and see what they can tell me. Im assuming the reason the car smokes so much is from running rich, it reaks of fuel, that and a combination of the cold.

TL;DR dood before was putting 87octane gas in car/car might be ticking time bomb.

**JLiss** · 01-12-2013

Having another issue, I cannot feel the trans changing gears at all. And from a dead stop I have to give it a decent amount of gas to get it to start moving. The car won't rev past 3k. If I put it in 1st or 2nd it will burn out. But if I do it in drive it will not. I'm hoping this is ignition issue.