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    Quote Originally Posted by 99GTRED View Post
    canada? that explains a lot. I guess you can call the grandprixforum police to arrest me for breaking the rules
    So, what you're saying then is that you made up the numbers you post?
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
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    i don't have to prove anything. i have the paper work i don't need anyones approval to know how my car performs before and after modifications
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    no i did not make it up.
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    If you're just gonna post bull**** and try to pass it as truth, there's a button that says logout at the top of the page.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
    Daily Driver: 06 Grand Prix GT / 9.4:1 CR / IS3 Heads / Ported Gen V / ZZP Headers / HPT Pro / Pulleys: 4.25, 3.8, 3.5, 3.4, 3.2, 3.0, 2.9, 2.7
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    why would i make it up?
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    Your numbers are either false or inflated.

    Heres what KN gained on a supercharged car:

    http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/57-3045_dyno.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99GTRED View Post
    why would i make it up?
    To try to seem cool to the ricers.
    Last edited by Explicit_Spade; 01-11-2012 at 10:06 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
    Daily Driver: 06 Grand Prix GT / 9.4:1 CR / IS3 Heads / Ported Gen V / ZZP Headers / HPT Pro / Pulleys: 4.25, 3.8, 3.5, 3.4, 3.2, 3.0, 2.9, 2.7
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    Uh brian, you're taking this a step too far.
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    that chart is for naturally aspirated. the series 2 3800 sc engine was rated at 240 hp and 280 ftlb of torque. that chart is for my type of engine which shows a gain of around 15. sorry i round up. i know if says s/c engine but the chart is for N/A engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99GTRED View Post
    that chart is for naturally aspirated. the series 2 3800 sc engine was rated at 240 hp and 280 ftlb of torque. that chart is for my type of engine which shows a gain of around 15. sorry i round up. i know if says s/c engine but the chart is for N/A engine

    hrmmm.

    Run Title: K&N 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8L s/c
    Run Notes: K&N Intake Kit #57-3045 installed. 2nd gear run. Miles 55218
    Run Date: 4/1/2004 12:26:14 PM
    K&N.002: 69.73 °F, 28.99 in-Hg, SAE: 1.01

    edit: http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/57-3045_dyno.pdf
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    that chart isn't.

    Stock 2000 Pontiac Grand Prix 3.8L s/c
    They used a chassis dyno which measures the power at the wheels.

    190-200 WHP is what a S/C series 2 typically produces.

    A N/A series II is typically around 150-160 WHP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99GTRED View Post
    that chart is for naturally aspirated. the series 2 3800 sc engine was rated at 240 hp and 280 ftlb of torque. that chart is for my type of engine which shows a gain of around 15. sorry i round up. i know if says s/c engine but the chart is for N/A engine
    no. the chart is for the L67, the S/C 3.8.

    they rate at 240hp, but do note that those numbers are CRANK hp. not to the wheels, as that chart shows.
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    either way its still got to be similar gains for my car. there isn't much of a difference between the engines. all i know is after i installed the intake there was clearly a noticeable difference in performance. Acceleration from a stop and while on a roll has improved big time. no matter what the numbers its a good upgrade and worth the money
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    So... You don't have a dynochart?
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
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    the one i have is the one k&n sent me
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    99...we've had some issues with outrageous claims by members/former members. As a whole the community can be quick to make certain that there's a tangible difference between data/numbers and claims. Try not to take it personally...but we take a lot of pride when we post information about our vehicles including real world results.

    So um...how's the audio side of things?!
    11 is louder than 10!
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    how is it not realistic? K&n makes THE best intakes and filters. you guys make it sound like I'm physco. Its a legit performance part
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    what do you mean audio side of things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99GTRED View Post
    what do you mean audio side of things?
    *cough*...look under my name...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99GTRED View Post
    how is it not realistic? K&n makes THE best intakes and filters.
    That's your opinion and that's fine, but don't push numbers without proof.
    Quote Originally Posted by W-Body Store
    Remember, GM engineers didn't take into account your need for speed.
    Daily Driver: 06 Grand Prix GT / 9.4:1 CR / IS3 Heads / Ported Gen V / ZZP Headers / HPT Pro / Pulleys: 4.25, 3.8, 3.5, 3.4, 3.2, 3.0, 2.9, 2.7
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