Quote Originally Posted by Reptile View Post
What I think is being overlooked is something also very simple. Anybody ever stop to think of how Mike got his place started? I'm willing to bet it was on other forums promoting his little part of the WWW. Sure he gives his sponsor free reign of mud slinging that takes place. Zoomer comes over and plays like he's a victim, when he built his company on the backlash of Intense, and I think we can all attest to witnessing him taking a crack at Wbodystore....

....Bottom line, I think it's rediculous that people live in fear. It's nice having friends, and they can keep all the kiddies that sling racial slurs and jump their cars on their side of the fence.
First off, I want to say that I had nothing to do with Dave getting banned and this hit me quite quickly. My thanks for editing the title of the thread. ClubGP is not a place where only ZZP can bash. It's a place where free speech is valued over political correctness. This is good for the community. If you don't have a method of feedback then consumers do not get a full picture of issues and potential problems.

In the beginning ClubGP was pretty relaxed on advertising. Scott and I started our companies and didn't pay for advertising until we had a few products going. Mike has gotten stricter. As for ZZP riding on the fallout of intense? That's not true. ZZP does more business than ZZP and Intense did combined before the crap. We're a company of nearly 20 guys using over 20,000 sq ft. Intense is a couple guys with the owner doing it on the side. It's apples to oranges. 1/4 of the products Scott does have motor mounts, pully systems, and many other small things are just copies of successful ZZP parts. Hell, Intense used to sell them as purchased from ZZP til we cut him off.

On the HGH comment, I think it's important for people to be able to voice their opinions. I don't really see the relevance of bringing up acusations of drug use in a car forum but whatever floats your boat. Probably just a jealous hater...