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  1. #21 Re: How to transmission 4th gear side cover access 
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    As long as you're not talking about the spare tire jack...haha. Most average 2 ton jacks will do the job. The assembly can't be heavier than that.

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    What about a 1.5?

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    I don't see why not. That's still 3,000lbs.

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    OK cool. So when lowering the sub frame, what else should be disconnected besides the 4 bolts? Engine mounts? Trans mount? If I sound inexperienced, that's because I am lol. Never done this much work before so I'm trying to be thorough as possible.

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    Just think of it as lowering sub frame to remove side cover for dummies type thing

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    Post #1 my good sir.

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    Oh duh lol. Where is the engine mount on the sub frame located?

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    FWIW no where in my write up do I say hoist. I did this again last Wednesday.. and that same trans is now sitting on milkcrates (broken pump shaft).

    The mounts, if you find the subframe... follow your way around it. You may find power steering lines connected to it, mounts, power steering rack etc. Sorry but being new doesn't cut you any slack. The basic principle here is to unhook anything connected to the subframe in order to lower it seperately than the engine/trans. Once the subframe is down.. then you can lower the rest while you watch the hoses and wires.

    The engine and trans mounts BTW are big black things. One of the ways I learned what parts were which.. was to use a parts store like Rockauto, look up the parts I was trying to find and use their pictures to see what it looks like.
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    Sorry I thought the thing you were using to support the engine was a hoist. I'm just having trouble following your guide because its not as thorough as I would like. For example, you say to support the engine from the top, OK, that's nice and all, but how exactly would I do that without a hoist? I've done simple repairs and have general knowledge, this repair is way out of my league but I'm attempting it anyways and I don't want to screw anything up as this is my DD and can't afford to have anything major to happen. So my only way to guarantee that is to ask many stupid questions.

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    you probably shouldnt be doing this big of a job if you dont know where a motor mount is.... if you take out the motor mount and trans mount then lower your sub frame all the way with no support from the top your in trouble. you need something like this .....

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    you dont have to support the top you can put a jack stand to hold it from the bottom like i did when i did my 4th gear
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    Why don't you guys follow the write up? I specificially outline how to do this procedure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Why don't you guys follow the write up? I specificially outline how to do this procedure.
    Follow instructions YOU posted in a HOW TO write up? Nah, just wing it...lol.
    I suggest this...

    Print the BillBoost instructions out, pin them to your garage wall and cross them off as you go. I never pulled an engine in my life. Followed the instructions to a "T" did it myself in a couple hours.
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    Hahahaha.. see, guys like you .. Well done!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    Hahahaha.. see, guys like you .. Well done!
    Not saying I'm perfect here, I just dont want to f@#k up my car, and these guys are going to do exactly that if they dont follow the instructions.

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    Guys, I read a lot of comments here, but I have a question, can the TCC and remaining solenoids be replaced in a 1999 Grand Prix with a 4T65HD-E transmission in it while the transmission is still in car?
    I have read all types of comments about the 4T65-E with the small "cover that can be removed to expose the solenoids, but this being the HD version, the driver's side is one complete cover that has to have the axle removed (along with a long list of other items) to allow access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazikaptn View Post
    Guys, I read a lot of comments here, but I have a question, can the TCC and remaining solenoids be replaced in a 1999 Grand Prix with a 4T65HD-E transmission in it while the transmission is still in car?
    I have read all types of comments about the 4T65-E with the small "cover that can be removed to expose the solenoids, but this being the HD version, the driver's side is one complete cover that has to have the axle removed (along with a long list of other items) to allow access.
    I haven't actually done this job yet but just judging by BillBoost write up and picture at the beginning of this thread I don't think he is removing just a little cover to access solenoids. Re-read the first page of this how to. Pretty sure he is covering exactly what you are talking about if you read carefully. Hopefully the author will chime in here too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazikaptn View Post
    Guys, I read a lot of comments here, but I have a question, can the TCC and remaining solenoids be replaced in a 1999 Grand Prix with a 4T65HD-E transmission in it while the transmission is still in car?
    I have read all types of comments about the 4T65-E with the small "cover that can be removed to expose the solenoids, but this being the HD version, the driver's side is one complete cover that has to have the axle removed (along with a long list of other items) to allow access.
    you should be able to i believe. Again, read the first page and read carefully..
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    I've done it numerous times to my 2000. Follow the steps in the first post until you get to the point where you see the solenoids then stop taking things apart. Replace the solenoids, and start putting everything back together. Be careful unplugging the solenoids, as they are normally pretty brittle.
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    The HD and non HD transmissions are identical in how they are put together. The only differences in the two are the number of teeth on drive/driven gear, output shaft is a little bigger/longer in the HD and the differential and it's cover. That is really the only changes.

    Getting to the soleniods can only be done in the car by removing the side cover which is a rather large piece. This requires you to lower the drivetrain enough to gain access in the wheel well. But yes.. you can do the solenoids based on this procedure. You would stop at the point where the procedure says to remove the wiring harness. At that point you will have access to them and do not need to go further into the steps.
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