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    Doesn't painting PVC piping actually make it weaker? I'm sure if you use the header paint to keep heat out it does its job, but when I built my potato launcher it was highly recommended that we don't paint PVC due to the weakening of its structure.

    I'm guessing it probably wouldn't matter if its an intake rather that's not dealing with too high of PSI, instead of piping with high pressures of water or in my case combustion.
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    quick question for vailskier3 what kind of filter did u use im trying to do this on my 05 and i got a 6 inch cone and it seems way to big to fit and im not sure if i should find a different one or if i could mod the fender frame to fit i guess and how long is your pvc piece? thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by 05gpgt View Post
    quick question for vailskier3 what kind of filter did u use im trying to do this on my 05 and i got a 6 inch cone and it seems way to big to fit and im not sure if i should find a different one or if i could mod the fender frame to fit i guess and how long is your pvc piece? thanks
    i used the 7" K&N i believe...it really takes some work to get it to go in at the right angle, i also bought the bigger roof flashing...my cone sits about 1/2 way into the fender well. thats where the bigger roof flashing comes in handy... It rubs a little big on the place where it rests, but i figure the flashing will hold it well enough. i haven't noticed the cone fraying or getting any debris, so i think its good and i've had it on for about 2 months now...PM me if you have any more questions, or if you need some more pics check my albums...

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    Hey i love this mod! I am going to try it out this weekend. A couple questions though;

    Where does everyone mount their PCMs?

    And also would i need to relocate my coolant bottle? (98 Grand Prix)

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve98GTP View Post
    Hey i love this mod! I am going to try it out this weekend. A couple questions though;

    Where does everyone mount their PCMs?

    And also would i need to relocate my coolant bottle? (98 Grand Prix)

    Thanks!
    you didnt see my pcm right next to my coolant bottle , did you ? its right there in the pics. on the bottom of my pcm i used the sponges that came right out of the airbox to absorb impact or vibration and took a screw off my pcm cover and drilled it to my chassis again with the sponge in between pcm and chassis ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjvdubsport View Post
    you didnt see my pcm right next to my coolant bottle , did you ? its right there in the pics. on the bottom of my pcm i used the sponges that came right out of the airbox to absorb impact or vibration and took a screw off my pcm cover and drilled it to my chassis again with the sponge in between pcm and chassis ..
    Mine sits there...and has never moved...I;ve never tied it down either...

    As for the coolant bottle...yes...you'll have to relocate it to the passenger strut tower like the '99+ Grand Prix's.
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    04+ cant do 4" by the way... you have to do 3" to match the maf.. otherwards you throw all kinds-a-codes
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    i think he has a 45 degree elbow bro
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    So which is better k&n or fwi intake which has better air flow
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    Weird sound? Not a nice sound? ?!

    Put the stock intake back on if you don't like it.
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    you mean that white cross section right on the other side of your filter in the back there? yes, i am in the process of trimming that out. dont use tin snips...takes way too long, believe me! your hands will thank you as well. just use a dremel or cut off tool if you can. its in the way for a lot of people, and just snip it out. if not that piece, i have no idea...
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    After doing my intake I found that the instructions were lacking a few details. Here are some things that may make it easier to make the intake.

    1. I used white lithium grease to help the PVC pipe fit onto the rubber elbows.
    2. A 1/2 inch drill bit works perfect for making the hole in the intake that air sensor plugs into.
    3. When I got my PVC pipe I could only get it in a 10 foot length. I got mine at Men@rds and even though it was 10 feet in length it was still only $7.00.
    4. I used a 12" conical air filter so I had to modify the instructions slightly. 14" for the longest piece, two 45 degree elbows, and a second 3 inch section.

    I hope this helps anyone else who is thinking of doing this. With this communities help and little elbow grease its amazing what you can do.





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    I was thinking about doing this on my car but the factory air filter seems like it already takes the air in from the same spot as the one on here. Where does the factory air intake get the air from? And how will this be any better than just adding a k&n filter that would fit the original filter I have? Also, will I need to get my pcm retuned after doing this mod?
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    The stock airbox gets its air from behind the headlight. if you take off the headlight you can see the hole. And if you just drop in a K&N filter, you still have the silencing effect of the airbox, and i think the airflow would still be more restricted than this method. Trust me, you will love the sound that comes from this. And im pretty sure you dont need to adjust your PCM, as long as you still have the air sensor in you should be good.
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    ???????? Am I the only one who has the problem if the coolant overflow being right where the filter goes through??? What am i supposed to do with the overflow??? Any ideas???
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    Quote Originally Posted by WHT98GTP View Post
    ???????? Am I the only one who has the problem if the coolant overflow being right where the filter goes through??? What am i supposed to do with the overflow??? Any ideas???
    you need a 99+ coolant bottle...it will be relocated to the passenger side strut tower
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    held on by 2 bolts from inside the tower =] easy as hell to do
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    Not as easy as two bolts. If you have a '97/'98 car then you have to drill out the strut tower and slide new bolts into it holding the bottle on.
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    Is there any real difference between this:



    and the FWI

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    Yes that is a short ram pulling hot air from the engine bay. The fwi puts the air filter in the fender pulling in cold air. fwi> short ram unless u are using alky/intercooled.
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