Thread: Worthless Mods

Originally Posted by 91parkave

Wheres the thread that has some dyno proof on people with less than 300-350 not gaining HP. from that mod? Im referring to Catback exhaust BTW

What do you want for GPF? There is never proof, only hearsay. Why not measure exhaust backpressure and datalog or dyno the results for proof. It'd be pretty easy to show gains in MAF readings if the exhaust truly did increase VE. Or again, shown on a dyno.

I think anything not on the following list is either not worth mentioning or not worth bragging about:

-Cam
-Intercooler
-Head work
-Power adder

If it ain't there, who the **** cares. It isn't going to magically net you more power unless you didn't select the right components to go with the other things on the list.

For example, top swap: without headers, it's a waste of time. You'll be on too large a pulley to make decent power.

Cam: without the proper valve springs, timing chain, push rods, rockers etc, again waste of time.

As for the details of how you get things done, that's up to the individual. There are certain products that work better than others, and everyone has their own standard for what is good enough. At the end of the day, it's your car, you're the one who has to live with it.

Originally Posted by matt5112

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For example, top swap: without headers, it's a waste of time. You'll be on too large a pulley to make decent power.

Cam: without the proper valve springs, timing chain, push rods, rockers etc, again waste of time.

I gotta disagree with this but with a little * added to it. I topswapped my bonneville with 100% stock exhaust with the 3.8 pulley and it runs like a beast * HOWEVER I do have a VS cam in it so I was able to run 18* of timing without KR. I did just recently obtain some headers and once I stop being lazy and put it in I plan to go with a smaller pulley. As is the thing is WAY faster than it was before. Even if you have stock everything and have to use something like a 4in pulley you're still seeing noticeable gains.

proper cams are NEVER a waste of time. You're obviously not taking advantage of certain racing cams if you don't wind out the revs more but something like a VS or s1x cam will most certainly see gains with everything else stock. Not worthless at all.

I think your idea of worthless differs. I understand the gains might not seem worthwhile to you personally but there are gains to be had in those mods and most people would agree since there is a measurable improvement.



As for the oversized radiators I can only see this being worthwhile for very few people. Maybe if you tow stuff, properly race your car, or live in certain climates.