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    im trying to get away with out pulling the heads on my gtp. now if i go with the modded 1.9's are 90lbs springs neccesary or are the stock ones fine? im assuming i have to upgrade the springs along with it. new hydraulic lifters and 7.00 push rods.
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    #90 springs are reccommended.....Save yourself a lot of money and run the original lifters and pushrods. No need to upgrade those.
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    Like GMR said...Yes upgrade your springs, retainers, locks and seals..but keep the stock lifters and pushrods
    04 Top-swapped, 3.2 pulley, ZZP 1.9 rockers w/ #90 springs,Mild P&P heads, Pacesetter Headers, Sseilmnop 2" Phenolic Intercooler with stage 3 HE, ZZP billet fuel rails, 42.5lb injectors, 3" full exhaust, all poly mounts,other supporting mods.
    oh and weight addition mods: CTS-V brake upgrade, 14" GT500 rotors

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    and you also don't have to pull your heads for a rocker/spring install unless you don't have a decent compressor
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    no compressor. already ordered the lifters and push rods to so money already spent. so if i dont have a way compress the spring i will have to pull the heads?
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    Pulling heads is a bad idea.....Use spring compressor along with air compressor or use spring compressor and turn motor manually with a breaker bar to make the cylinder you're working on be at TDC.

    You'll have 3x the cost, head aches, and labor involved in pulling cylinder heads.

    Return the lifters and pushrods if you can....it's literally a waste of money.
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    What greg said return the lifters and push rods and invest in a compressor.
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    I didn't even think about making each cylinder tdc when I replace the springs. good idea. so no push rods or lifters? when is it a good idea to replace the lifters and rods then?
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    When you need too lol. Unless your lifters exploded or are ticking loudly (most 3800s have some lifter tick)
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    alright thanks guys
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    You have the wrong length pushrods anyway. Stock is 7.05
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    another trick to change valve springs is to feed rope into the spark plug hole when the piston is near the top to hold the valve closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorizon View Post
    another trick to change valve springs is to feed rope into the spark plug hole when the piston is near the top to hold the valve closed.
    I was gonna say this so you dont risk cracking a valve or piston but i prefer compressor
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    ^^^Ive done this on my mustang motor, works well.
    1998 GTP Mods: Getrag 5 speed ,balanced bottom end,ARP hardware,L32 rods,Federal pistons .20 over,XP Cammed,Double roller,130# springs,and 3.4 Gen V,SSC springs,GMPP sways, C5 calipers,12 inch brakes.2000 Grand Prix SE 3.8 Mods: GT dual exaust,plog,downpipe,Transgo Shift kit,1.9 yella terra rr,strut braces,gmpp kit.Both noob tuned with HP Tuner
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    For what it's worth I ran stock springs on my old 98 gtp with modded 1.9's
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
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    ^ yes but what were you shifting at?
    04 Top-swapped, 3.2 pulley, ZZP 1.9 rockers w/ #90 springs,Mild P&P heads, Pacesetter Headers, Sseilmnop 2" Phenolic Intercooler with stage 3 HE, ZZP billet fuel rails, 42.5lb injectors, 3" full exhaust, all poly mounts,other supporting mods.
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    6000rpm
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    What is everyone using for compressors I have an engine on a stand and I have a compressor for heads that are off but it wont work? I saw some ls1 compressors on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/LS1-LS2-LS3-...06be1e&vxp=mtr does anyone know if this would work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsnyder49090 View Post
    What is everyone using for compressors I have an engine on a stand and I have a compressor for heads that are off but it wont work? I saw some ls1 compressors on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/LS1-LS2-LS3-...06be1e&vxp=mtr does anyone know if this would work?
    By compressor we mean air compressor to fill the cylinders with air in order to change the springs
    04 Top-swapped, 3.2 pulley, ZZP 1.9 rockers w/ #90 springs,Mild P&P heads, Pacesetter Headers, Sseilmnop 2" Phenolic Intercooler with stage 3 HE, ZZP billet fuel rails, 42.5lb injectors, 3" full exhaust, all poly mounts,other supporting mods.
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    O my bad I meant valve spring compressor ..
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