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  1. #1 91 caprice flooding out after running 5 min 
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    I just bought a 91 caprice and haven't been able to get it home yet since it'll only run for about 5-10 min before flooding out. I replaced the spark plugs and coolant temp sensor and it didn't fix anything. I'm just wondering if anyone else has any ideas. It has a 5.0 in it tbi.
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    TPS, Vac Leak.

    Seems to be the common things on forums.
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    Any vac leaks? Being that old those old lines are bound to be brittle by now. Also, check the base of the throttle body as they like to leak there, and of course could also be a stuck injector.

    How does it idle?
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    no vacuum leaks. It idles like a dream
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    I'm thinking maybe coil going bad or map sensor?
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
    08 g8 gt cam exhaust 11.87@118
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    I'm thinking maybe coil going bad or map sensor?
    Prolly not MAP sensor... I had that unplugged on my silverado for a while and it ran fine.
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    Watch the injector spray pattern. Those injectors gum up over time and cause some fun running issues...like when the PCM tries to increase pulse width the injector starts dribbling. Also, after about 5 minutes of running, the O2 starts reporting so you might have an O2 pegged lean causing it to try to add fuel.
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    So I'll try checking the spray pattern out and then unplugging the o2 and seeing about that as well. I like the cheap suggestions lol. I only paid $250 for the car so I'm trying to flip it.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    Well, that shouldn't be hard with all the people buying those things and "drinking" them. SMFH
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    I have a black guy interested and I told him $1000
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    They sell for that dead down here. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    I have a black guy interested and I told him $1000
    you should keep it and throw on some 32's
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    If i kept it it would be laying frame on 18's
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russosaur View Post
    you should keep it and throw on some 32's
    Screw 32's, get a lift kit:

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    Around here you could get $4-5k+ with it running and that's all. Guys buy those old caprice up like hot cakes here.
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    I'll drive it down then lol
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsmuts View Post
    I'll drive it down then lol
    First it has to run...without flooding out. LOL
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    The more I think about it the more I'm leaving toward o2. Makes sense
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
    08 g8 gt cam exhaust 11.87@118
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    I always wanted a newer one with a lt1. I thought it would be fun to make a wagon fast. People are always shocked how fast my regal is. Would be just as fun beating mustangs in a big wagon. As far as your problem go's it wouldn't be your tb gasket, they idle up when they go bad. Same with a vac leak, unless its a big one. A bad map, will make it sound like it has a cam. So will the egr they stick, could idle up to. Inside the tbi at the bottom of the injectors there's a gasket that will leak, but would cause it run rich all the time. Same go's with the top gasket, where the pressure regulator is in. If you had a stuck open injector, chances are it wouldn't start. Since they run rich, during start up. You said you replaced the coolant temp sensor, that would have been my first guess. Did you look at the wire that go's into it? I would also take the tps out there plastic, on the pass side tb. They go bad. The groove from the tb pin becomes loose over time. If you check all of this including the o2, i would then look at the computer pins. Pull the harness off the computer and look for corrosion. I have seen distributors go bad with the plastic gear at the bottom has slop. When the computer go's to adjust the timing, they will run rough and rich. Same with the pickup module they will go bad from poor grounding.

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    Well today I ran it across town and it ran great the whole time left it set for about 4 hours hopped in it to run to dollar general and it ran like **** the whole time except at idle. So I'm thinking tps maybe.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
    08 g8 gt cam exhaust 11.87@118
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