ZZP headers

**Sabrewings** · 09-07-2008

Originally Posted by TDCRacing

Right. And that's my main reason for getting them. Because of the primaries ect.

There actually the same price as the togs when you add in the shorty DP (tog's come with one) for 50 bucks.

If I end up top swapping and get serious with the car, these will definitely be installed.

TDCRacing · 09-07-2008

So your for them too huh? Thats good to know. Does anyone actually know of anyone that has bought these yet? Just out of curosity. Doubt I would be the first but that would be pretty cool lol...Kinda like a crash test dummy

**Quicklynx** · 09-08-2008

I need to purchse some headers, hopefully I'll have some within a month

TDCRacing · 09-12-2008

A review on zzp's website. Maybe this is what i was talking about with the hp gain over the pacesetters.

By Kenneth Day
Date Added 09/05/2008

Amazing headers! I had Pacesetters on my high compression XPZ setup, and couldn't get over 338 WHP on 93 octane. Just switching to ZZP headers netted a 16 WHP increase on the same 93 octane! Construction quality seems to be first class, and there is no audible ticking noise as is common with some other headers and down pipes.

Im ordering these tomorrow morning after i deposit some money in the bank.

**blowfishRus6** · 09-12-2008

bout time you made a decision

haha nah im playin, im actually jelous :/

TDCRacing · 09-13-2008

Another 1006 dollars down the drain

**blowfishRus6** · 09-13-2008

GUHHHH.... maybe im not that jelous...

**Quicklynx** · 09-13-2008

what all do I need for these headers? I see a lot of options for downpipes and such. Basically I just want to run headers then a cutout. What problems would arise from doing that on the 3800 other than the O2 sensors going ballistic...?

Thanks

**Sabrewings** · 09-13-2008

You need the headers and a TOG style DP. That's it.

TDCRacing · 09-13-2008

If you don't have a tog downpipe and have a stock 2 1/2'' cat back and are planning to weld the cutout in then get the headers,mild steel or stainless shorty downpipe and pick up a 3'' to 2 1/2'' flanged reducer from ZZP for 8 bucks theat will bolt up to the stock catback. All you will need then is a short section of 3'' pipe to go from the shorty DP to the cutout (Assuming it is a 3'') then from the cutout weld the flanged reducer to that.Then that bolts up to the stock catback.

3 welds and your done.

Also the o2 sensor is not going to be past the cutout so your ok. DO NOT run the cutout before the o2 sensor. Because it would be just like an o2 sensor was never installed.

**Quicklynx** · 09-14-2008

Originally Posted by TDCRacing

If you don't have a tog downpipe and have a stock 2 1/2'' cat back and are planning to weld the cutout in then get the headers,mild steel or stainless shorty downpipe and pick up a 3'' to 2 1/2'' flanged reducer from ZZP for 8 bucks theat will bolt up to the stock catback. All you will need then is a short section of 3'' pipe to go from the shorty DP to the cutout (Assuming it is a 3'') then from the cutout weld the flanged reducer to that.Then that bolts up to the stock catback.

3 welds and your done.

Also the o2 sensor is not going to be past the cutout so your ok. DO NOT run the cutout before the o2 sensor. Because it would be just like an o2 sensor was never installed.

If the cutout is closed I shouldn't have sensor issues right??? I'd prefer to not have to go through the cat first then the cutout. I want cutout before and close it during emissions testing. I've never ran a cut out before. I had a full exhaust on the Talon...

**Sabrewings** · 09-14-2008

Originally Posted by Quicklynx

If the cutout is closed I shouldn't have sensor issues right??? I'd prefer to not have to go through the cat first then the cutout. I want cutout before and close it during emissions testing. I've never ran a cut out before. I had a full exhaust on the Talon...

He's talking about the upstream O2 sensor, not the downstream O2 sensor. Most cutouts are installed before the cat.

TDCRacing · 09-14-2008

Ok so your keeping your cat.....well do just like I said but put the cutout before the cat like sabrewings said.

**Quicklynx** · 09-15-2008

Originally Posted by TDCRacing

Ok so your keeping your cat.....well do just like I said but put the cutout before the cat like sabrewings said.

I see now, I misunderstood what you were saying first. Yea I'll be keeping my cat just to prevent the hassle of having to change my exhaust before emission checks every 2 years here... what a pain.

**Quicklynx** · 09-18-2008

I'll probably be ordering these once I get my plugs and wires changed (shipped). Hopefully I'll be able to let you all know how it goes!

TDCRacing · 09-18-2008

Ill take some pics friday or saturday...more detailed pics...I'll inculde before and after pics of the installation. Along with some other parts i ordered

**blowfishRus6** · 09-18-2008

do you just have a tab over at zzp or something????? damnit man always gettings something new. ahhh i need to quit slacking...

TDCRacing · 09-19-2008

Originally Posted by blowfishRus6

ahhh i need to quit slacking...

Nah no tab just havent been slacking latley...but i will be this next week...man im like sittin on the damn front waitin on these damn parts lol...j/k