FWIW I dislike ABS/TC. I don't pull the fuse to disable it, but I do give it more time to pull out into traffic and expect longer stopping distance than I can typically achieve without it. Reason why is ...I don't slam on the brakes and expect the best from the system. I stop reasonably and have driven tons of stuff w/o it. Therefore I understand what the vehicle is typically going to do. Being a 2000 my Regal has no stability control and only does it's best to keep the wheels from locking/spinning. The system can't see the road/conditions and can't plan to dodge items in the way. This is where a human "can" be better than such a basic system.

Most people though don't have a clue how to drive w/o these crutches and use them fully. To me it's like not having a rearview mirror on the window. Some people can't drive w/o it. Me..I realize I can use my side mirrors and if there is no obstruction in the rear seat etc, I can turn my head.

Nick..I find your comments funny, not because you are wrong or right. But the conviction you use. Meanwhile you tune differently than most guys and argued with proven veterans that your way was better. Different isn't always totally wrong,