IIRC, the 97's had the 2nd "elbow" molded into the aluminum alt. bracket and is not replaceable separately. Just the o-ring is.Originally Posted by Elite6
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12-20-2011
IIRC, the 97's had the 2nd "elbow" molded into the aluminum alt. bracket and is not replaceable separately. Just the o-ring is.
12-20-2011
Alright thanks.
Ok, i'll check thanks
12-20-2011
Alright I just got back from town with a package of 2 new elbows and I got both belts off and flipped the alternator up but the thing the elbow is attached to is still not free. It looks like the water pump? And also I can only find one elbow?
12-20-2011
you can only find one elbow because there is only one PLASTIC elbow. the other is molded aluminum. and be careful not to break it or your gonna be buying a new alt bracket
12-20-2011
Well where is it at so i wont break it? and I still can't get the plastic elbow off?
12-20-2011
or timing cover.
do not pull it on an angle, its okay to wiggle it, but do not pull on an angle.
Pull in the same direction the front of the motor faces, towards the passenger fender.
12-20-2011
Pull the waterpump towards the passanger side?
12-20-2011
No need to pull the waterpump. They are referring to the alt. bracket. Did you remove all the bolts that hold this bracket to the engine?
12-20-2011
I removed the alt bracket, which was just roughly a foot long black bar, and the alternator is pulled upwards, but it looks like the plastic elbow goes into the water pump?
12-20-2011
That black bar was just a support for the alt. Here are some pics of what your 97 alt bracket should look like. In this example the person did actually snap the coolant elbow that is molded into the bracket. You can see that in pic #1. That also shows the bolt locations for the bracket. IIRC, there is one bolt that is hidden on the left side kinda set back from the rest. You will have to feel for it as you cannot see it.
In Pic #2 the red circle to the right shows how the coolant flows through the bracket and into the timing cover, hence the built in elbow w/ o-ring.
12-20-2011
nooooo the alternator bracket is the big hunk of metal that is under the alternator that the two heater hoses go into
12-20-2011
I am having problems finding that hidden bolt. Here is a picture I took an I think I found the bolt but not sure, the second picture shows the bolt.
It is to the left of the top pulley.
12-20-2011
That looks like it. There should also be another bolt on the left side of the bracket over/behind the power steering pulley. That is the one you will have to feel for. I can't remember for sure, but I recall having to take the PS pump loose from the motor and just move it out of the way a but in order to get a clear shot at that bolt, as it will hit the top of the PS pump pulley on the way out and not be fully removed. Might be different on the 97 tho.
12-20-2011
Most call it coolant elbow, I call it a effin design failput a plastic piece of sh1t in that part of the eninge talk about "weakest link" dammit! Anyway I replaced mine with copper tubing and hasn't given me any problems yet.
12-20-2011
on the newer cars the coolant passage gets quite small in the tensioner assembly to make room for a bolt hole.
12-20-2011
You won't see that bolt from the top. Its kind of underneath those other two hoses if that makes sense. You don't have to pull the PS pump to pull it off as mentioned above. That is a pain in itself to go back on since you do it blind.
Originally Posted by TLSheff
12-20-2011
Alright, I got it lose and it wiggles forward and backward but I can't seem to pull it off. I cut the plastic elbow in half because I thought that that might be holding it back but that didn't help much. I tried wedging a flat head screw driver in the crack to give me some more leverage but it didn't work either. Any suggestions?
12-20-2011
Maybe try turning it back and forth (clockwise and counter-clockwise) some as you pull straight out towards the strut tower. The large o-ring may be sticking in the cover. Whatever you do don't pull on it at an angle.
12-20-2011
I've tried that too but still nothing. Should I pull as hard as I can or would that be too much force for it?
12-20-2011
Without being there it's kinda hard to tell, but yes, it may need a good strong pull. This may also be a good time to teach you about making sure there is nothing in the way for when it does pop loose that you will smash/cut your hands on. Always check your surroundings or you will be throwing the bracket once you remove it
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