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10-13-2011
Can't blame him for trying. That's how it starts. Get an idea, make it work, and record the benefits. I don't think other vendors used the tvs as it rare and expensive. Instead they picked the what was avail on production cars and improved it on via porting or intercooling. The whipple , and m112 , seem too big for these motors. That seemed to be the end , then it went to turbos. No one really wanted to drop $$ going backwards Let's see what it does , I'm curious to see as well.
10-14-2011
Too big?Originally Posted by crazyguy03
Meh, That's where ported heads, lower compression, E85, intercoolers, meth injection come into play...
Troy made over 500 WHP on his W140AX setup years ago, until Minichopper screwed him out of his one off intercooler core and I don't think the car even runs anymore. Whipple cars make buttloads of power, but you NEED the excessive and cooling mods to make it work efficiently...where in a turbo would make more HP per $ at that point.
10-14-2011
i think the point of this swap is maybe everyone doesn't want to take their heads off, build a motor, have access to e85 or want to run meth. if what Nick is saying is true, anyone with a bolt on 3800 can just straight swap for the tvs and pick up good power while maintaining a stock like drivability and without tearing into the engine.
anyway can you answer my PM?
10-14-2011
You can ask Nick yourself, I'm sure he can answer it.
Also, so far...unless he prodcuces the plates/adapters and all the stuff you need to make the TVS work...so far, it isn't just "bolt-on".
And upgrading a blower your still going to need flow mods...you can't expect to gain anything with letting the motor breathe when your trying to force more air into it....more efficient or not.
10-14-2011
That's the part that isn't understood by Nick though.
Alt relocation
Adapter plate (which is currently on it's third version? maybe a cardboard mock up would have helped?)
Fuel rail solution
TB adapter
Different pullies than most are running (should be readily accessible though)
A Gen V is much more bolt up in those respects. Open a LIM, get a TB adapter and your done in most cases. That's why most do it. It's a very simple upgrade. Is it the best, heck now.
It will also be tough to gauge the true results with Nicks info. He's cammed etc at this point. Therefore the change in power delta may be larger than it should be for a stock motor.
Did he have any luck getting his "fried" DHP fixed?
10-14-2011
Try to find a TVS1320 for sale right now. I see that Slow says he picked on up for $1200 but good luck finding one for that. Not to mention its a Harrop TVS1320 which is not the same at the generic TVS1320 from Eaton. They are going to be few and far between. Look what they sell for new:
Harrop TVS Supercharger - Over The Top Performance
For that much money your are in Turbo land. OR:
http://www.pse.us/products.Lysholm.TwinScrew.htm
10-14-2011
i accept your challenge because i want to do this swap as well if the power is there. this is what i found in the last 5 minutes
back to stage 2 sale - harrop, 60s, intake... - Cobalt SS Network
Feeler: TVS 5k Miles! - Cobalt SS Network
Selling a TVS for a buddy - Cobalt SS Network
Harrop TVS for sale - Cobalt SS Network
Lots of parts!! TVS, TD, Gauges - Cobalt SS Network
new member part out TVS and other goodies - Cobalt SS Network
Back to stock sale TVS, TD, Lots of goodies. - Cobalt SS Network
10-14-2011
1. No price
2. 1700 FIRM
3. Old and probably sold but still $1350+shipping
4. SOLD--Still $1600
5. OLD- $1500-needs a stock blower back- Shipping?
6. OLD- $1400 Shipping?
7. SOLD- $1300+ shipping?
Slow got a super deal on the blower he got and 3 pulleys.
Not to mention they don't mention pulleys in many of those threads.
If it works more power to you and I hope it works! I wouldn't put all your eggs in the basket just yet though.
10-14-2011
Yeah, they are more like $1800.
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