from copgtp's gen5 swap faq thread
you are saying you only spent so much but as nick got a smokin deal and you are pointing that out, isn't it fair to point out you also got a smokin deal?Originally Posted by copgtp
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10-14-2011
from copgtp's gen5 swap faq thread
you are saying you only spent so much but as nick got a smokin deal and you are pointing that out, isn't it fair to point out you also got a smokin deal?
10-14-2011
Not really. Actually prices have gone down since I bought my stuff.
Yes if you buy a full kit from Morad you are gonna pay an arm and a leg. Get the parts yourself from a junk yard and from the forums there is no way you are going to spend $1000.
10-14-2011
They USED to be spending that much...now if you know how to junkyard or CL shop...people are snagging up GenV's for 250-500 and mod a LIM for free?
Plenty of money left over for some nitrous and you still beat the TVS car? AMIRITE? I'm just stating options...
10-14-2011
http://www.lysholm.us/pdf/diagram_lys1600ax.pdf
Not much more impressive than a gen V...
Similar outlet temps to : http://www.magnusonproducts.com/images/mp90g2.jpg
Last edited by matt5112; 10-14-2011 at 01:43 PM.
10-14-2011
The only thing is the two maps are different. One is in (minutes) other in (hours) I guess I don't know how that would skew it but I bet the map would look much different.
I think this is for the MP90 NOT the 1600ax, that is why it is so similar.
10-14-2011
Hopefully this isn't thread jacking maybe I should start a new thread?
10-14-2011
Look at that intake setup.
Legit.
10-14-2011
The thread title is "has anyone seen this???"
You just posted stuff I haven't seen.
You are in the clear... lol
10-14-2011
what does everyone actually think this swap will make for power
I've hung out with nick a bunch of times and imo he's a genius. i gotta go with him on this one, if he says he's conservatively shooting for 350 i think he hits 350
10-14-2011
Pure, I dont think you read them very well.
AB efficiency is 62 peak on the gen V and 66 peak on the AX1600.
TVS is higher than both.
FAQ: Harrop LSJ-1320 TVS & You - Saturn ION RedLine Forums
Intercooled running 20 PSI and the IAT's were 133My last dyno was 318/288 @ 7,395rpm w/ afr of 11.9 and 17* timing @ 69*F w/ 48% humidity; and was still on the way up. Stock air box mod, pacesetter header, 3" catless dp, 3" custom exhaust, secondary cobra h/e, no meth. IAT2's topped at 133*F after the third pull. My 2.6/60's setup hit 160+ IAT2's after multiple runs and dyno'd in at 258/239.
Delta T is 64 for the first scenario.
Compared to an intercooled M90: http://www.zzperformance.com/products_img/145_3.jpg
140-150 is the best you can hope for.
Doing something logical = genius now?
Last edited by matt5112; 10-14-2011 at 10:07 PM.
10-14-2011
You sure? If that is true the TVS 1320 beats every Lysholm blower. I am wondering if the per minute vs. per hour comparison makes a difference?
10-14-2011
divide by 60.
10-14-2011
i think that guy is talking about his m62 temps at 160
10-14-2011
Good point.
10-14-2011
i meant in general. if you ever got the chance to have a face to face conversation with him hes just very smart, which is why i believe if he says 350 it will be 350 or more. but if this swap is so logical how come no one has tried it?
10-14-2011
Most don't get past a 3.4 setup over here.
Most like guarantees of power as well. Not gambles.
10-15-2011
so people who have never met him or havent gotten past 3.4 setups are doggin him sayin hes a moron and a dirtbag and commenting that the swap isnt going to work
i get it!
10-15-2011
No I believe that was Vet.
To be frank: This isn't how hot rodding is supposed to go.
You're supposed to go out, do it, then when you have results, POSSIBLY share.
Many don't share at all.
Mainly because its about having a car that you like to drive, not making yourself an e-hero by making more power than everyone else.
10-15-2011
i was under the impression that these forums were created for fans of the car to share their views, ideas and car setups with each other.
i guess i had it all wrong
10-15-2011
I put a MP62 on a 2.7l v6, and im happy with the efficiency of that setup. Also it sounds more like csc type blower and makes me a bit jealous. At the same time, I didn't really expect anyone here to care lol but I posted it when I saw a relevant thread pop up.
SO to see a smaller blower set up go into play, Im listening, but id rather not listen to all the bs, and nut-huggin, just the facts. So when you have some FACTS, list em.
materials, cost, results and a how to
I hope slo gets it done , but they call him slo for a reason
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