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    http://www.zzperformance.com/downloa...omparison1.pdf

    15* difference for the cost of ceramic coating?

    Which is $300-600 depending on what you're having done.

    3% power loss from higher IAT.

    (high estimate based CAI_Primer_Thermal as well as assuming that the external temp of the intake tubing is the same as the internal... which it probably isnt.)

    280 CHP.

    3% is 8.4 HP.

    *.80 for 6.72 whp.



    Was looking at ported blowers on 540 WHP CTS-V... He gained 20 WHP.

    3.7% increase.

    so 3.7 on 280 is 10.36 CHP.

    8.3 WHP for the cost of a ported blower. (free to 500 for ZZP)



    Interesting when you put into perspective the cost of these mods for the gains you achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    http://www.zzperformance.com/downloa...omparison1.pdf

    15* difference for the cost of ceramic coating?

    Which is $300-600 depending on what you're having done.

    3% power loss from higher IAT.

    (high estimate based CAI_Primer_Thermal as well as assuming that the external temp of the intake tubing is the same as the internal... which it probably isnt.)

    280 CHP.

    3% is 8.4 HP.

    *.80 for 6.72 whp.



    Was looking at ported blowers on 540 WHP CTS-V... He gained 20 WHP.

    3.7% increase.

    so 3.7 on 280 is 10.36 CHP.

    8.3 WHP for the cost of a ported blower. (free to 500 for ZZP)



    Interesting when you put into perspective the cost of these mods for the gains you achieve.
    Are you saying thats good or bad? I would take 8WHP anyday, but maybe not for $500+. Some people like to do whatever they can to go faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoRoW99 View Post
    Are you saying thats good or bad? I would take 8WHP anyday, but maybe not for $500+
    Thats on a VERY expensive port job...


    Looking at other options like intercooling.

    NOT WORTH MONEY.

    1500 by the time you're done.

    for 40 whp?


    Cam? Depends on what size.

    If you're doing 34 WHP gains for the cost of the cam, gaskets, springs, retainers....

    You're looking at:

    330 cam
    100 springs/retainers
    200 gaskets/fluids.

    630+ for 34 whp versus that 8 WHP you were so excited about for that 550 dollar blower port from ZZP.

    Much better returns.
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