Thread: New Production A FWI Based Off the TDC Racing Design

I received permission awhile ago, from Parker himself, to produce a similar product based off the design of the TDC Racing fender well intake system for the 3800 engines.

I have been looking around at a couple of places that could make the pipe for me, however, of all the quotes I received, it is very expensive to produce, especially on the small number scale. One of the issues of the TDC Racing intake was it was made of steel which makes the system very heavy. It is close to 10 lbs. A big issue of price was because of all the bends. It isn't exactly cheap to stretch and bend 4 inch piping.

I have a couple of solutions in mind.

Working with a local shop, I have been able to find ways to cut down cost a little. The first is to try to reduce the bends. It was suggested by the shop, and I agree with them, to use a coupler with a bend off the throttle body to connect to the intake pipe. The other was to try to keep it as straight as possible to the fender. This is beneficial to both the manufacturer and the customer.

Another thing I would like to do is make the system out of aluminum, rather than steel, to drop some of the weight. I'm not sure yet if this would reduce or increase the cost of the product.

I plan to do a couple of things to the piping before I package it and ship it out as well. I'm a firm believer in quality and image of a product. I will not be selling the pipe without it being painted first. I'm still looking into ways to do this but most likely powder coat. I'm also looking into ways to maybe pre-coat the piping before the powder coat in order to prevent potential heat soak as much as possible.

Another thing I didn't like about the TDC Racing was the quality of the block off plate. It had burn marks and its cuts were all uneven. I'm looking into ways to make this piece a lot more show appealing and so it actually fits nicely onto the fender and the intake itself.

I also would like to ask you all for what you would want to see in an intake system. What can I change on this system to make it more appealing for you? What do you feel is a fair price to charge for a complete kit? I want to set the kit up that includes the intake piping(powder coated and drilled for the IAT), block off plate, a cone filter, and the couplers. I will keep high standards when it comes to the quality of this kit, as well as make it a nice show piece.

A couple of things I want to look into are adding an IAT extension cable and PCM tray as apart of the kit. It would obviously increase the cost of the kit, but again I would like to take image and show into account and zip ties don't cut it in my opinion. I think the IAT extension cable would be a nice upgrade. Any thoughts on these possible additions? Any ideas on other additions?

I would like to address a few things as well before all the questions get asked. I know the name, Parker, has a very negative image on this site. I know he took a lot of money from many of you and you never received your items so I want to clear a few things up first.

1. I am not working with Parker in any way with this future production of this intake. I am not affiliated with Top Dead Center Racing in any other way other than potentially manufacturing an intake system and kit closely based off their specific design.
2. I hold a high level of professionalism and I will NOT sell any of you anything without having it in stock first! I will try to keep an update of how many I have in stock, etc..
3. If there are any problems with the quality of the system when you receive it, whether it be a malfunction on my part, shipping, etc., I will do whatever I can to work with you on fixing the issue. I will clarify more in the future when/if this thing actually goes into production.
4. I am very very VERY easy to get a hold of. I plan to utilize my android/ google phone to make it possible for you all to reach me at almost any hour of the day through either e-mail or chat. I can't preach enough about how important excellent customer service is. It means a lot to me if customers are happy! It also helps me to bring in more revenue if I have a positive image. I want to keep this business endeavor very professional, but personal at the same time.

I hope I am able to bring this product to the table. I can't guarantee the cost of the product will be cheaper than what TDC was selling his intake system for, and to be honest I highly doubt it will be that cheap, but I will make sure it is a much higher quality part and worth it for you all.

What I need to know is how many of you would be interested in a kit like this? I just need a nice head count and opinons to make sure the production of the system is a worthwhile venture to pursue.

Thanks you guys!

count me in

Yea I tried the 9 inch with mine and it was way too big. There is not a whole lot of space in the fender well for it.

Originally Posted by matt5112

IAT sensor should be as close to the TB as possible

I will take that into consideration.

Do any of the proceds go to him? Wouldnt want to line that crooks pockets

Originally Posted by 01gpgt01

Do any of the proceds go to him? Wouldnt want to line that crooks pockets

Not at all. His company was still in service when we made the agreement, but he wasn't producing any intake systems at the time. That is what prompted me to talk to him about it.

Also the design will probably change a bit so it won't be the exact same intake system design used by TDC Racing.

I haven't decided on a name for the product or what my business name should be. I want "Lynx Racing" but that has been taken by another company. I may go with "Quik Racing," no "C."

Any ideas???

I dont live to far from you. When you get them rolling Ill buy one. Id like to see how it compares to the ghetto Short ram I have on the car now performance wise.

nice, my brother is in Hagerstown, MD. He works at Monroe Exhaust shop, but he also rents out a little shop with a friend of his from the AC Delco up there and builds Nissans.

I wish you had a 04+ GP because I would like to get some measurements off their models to see if I can setup a kit for them as well.

Quiklynx Performance...or maybe QLP for short?

While I am not interested in one, I do a lot of installs on parts for people typically as far as 4-6 hours away. In doing so quality and fitment are key in getting these folks items installed and them back on the road home quickly.

Some of the things I've noted is consideration of common mods and the ability of the intake to adapt easily.

Scenarios off the top of my head:
Charged:
Stock car wanting to use this intake on stock TB
Gen V with LS1 TB and external maf sensor (LQ4/LS1 sensors)
Gen V with N* TB and external maf sensor
Gen 3 IC'd with stock TB
Gen 3 IC'd with N* TB and external maf sensor
Gen V IC'd with LS1 TB and external maf sensor
Gen V IC'd with N* TB and external maf sensor
NA:
Stock car wanting to use this intake on stock TB (should be covered under the same kit as the stock car SC, because the TB's are located in the same place.

If you can figure out a way to make the base kit and have an adapter for some of the various combos that move the TB etc around, that would be awesome. People could buy the base and the adapter they need. If they change setups or sell it, the main kit (most of the cost) is reusable.

Originally Posted by BillBoost37

While I am not interested in one, I do a lot of installs on parts for people typically as far as 4-6 hours away. In doing so quality and fitment are key in getting these folks items installed and them back on the road home quickly.

Some of the things I've noted is consideration of common mods and the ability of the intake to adapt easily.

Scenarios off the top of my head:
Charged:
Stock car wanting to use this intake on stock TB
Gen V with LS1 TB and external maf sensor (LQ4/LS1 sensors)
Gen V with N* TB and external maf sensor
Gen 3 IC'd with stock TB
Gen 3 IC'd with N* TB and external maf sensor
Gen V IC'd with LS1 TB and external maf sensor
Gen V IC'd with N* TB and external maf sensor
NA:
Stock car wanting to use this intake on stock TB (should be covered under the same kit as the stock car SC, because the TB's are located in the same place.

If you can figure out a way to make the base kit and have an adapter for some of the various combos that move the TB etc around, that would be awesome. People could buy the base and the adapter they need. If they change setups or sell it, the main kit (most of the cost) is reusable.

Good points, Bill, and I will definitely look into an adapter. Shouldn't be too hard to do considering I would likely be using a coupler as the starting piece.

that is interesting, even tho i have a thrasher box if the piping is good i might be interested in it.

I also wanted to bring this up. I know many of you never received your items. If I can get this thing I going I want to try and see if I can help any of you on this list in the initial post.

http://www.grandprixforums.net/offic...ead-20791.html

As much I would want to, I wouldn't be able to compensate anyone with a free system, especially since there is a lot of you, but I will try to put something together where any of you affected can get a discount of some sort. It would be my way of paying back all that this forum has given to me in knowledge, etc..