Installing Headers?

**AmericanRiceEater** · 06-28-2010

Hey today i went for an estimate for how much it would cost for my headers to be installed. They gave me a price of $200. That mentioned it was that expensive because if a bolt from the manifold cracks and drops into the block im screwed and so are they. Does this sound right or does it sound like a rip off. Let me know humans.

**blueguy** · 06-28-2010

$200 for a header install isn't bad...but how are they going to break a bolt off and drop it in the block? Unless they mean breaking a bolt off in the head...and I've only seen the crossover bolts break. not the ones on the head. Pretty sure I'd do it for $200...it isn't a fun job to do.

**AmericanRiceEater** · 06-28-2010

Ya thats what he meant. Is it a common thing that the stock bolts that connect the manifold break off into the head? Im not sure if he was just saying that to get a few more bucks out of me for the job... thanks .

**BillBoost37** · 06-28-2010

Extremely uncommon for a bolt to break off in a head. So uncommon that I'd say you had to have the gun set to "On" and "kill" in order to do it.

I've done one...only one, only because I was gunning along in a race against time.

**SlowNA06** · 06-28-2010

$200 for a header install? I'd be on top of that. I'd rather drop a couple bucks than save it only to make trouble and work for myself. Especially since I don't have a lift - installing on jack stands would be a pain, to say the least.

I'm told it's an 8-hour job... labor out here near Philthadelphia like $80/hr if not more. $80x8=$640. You'd be saving $440 worth of frustration to get someone else to do it and do it right.

**Bio248** · 06-28-2010

jack stands? what for? you install it all from the top...

**AmericanRiceEater** · 06-28-2010

Ya, i actually just got another call from a good friend who said he would do it for about $150, depending on how far the headers run back. So looks like this is getting done thursday and im moving on to a nicely tuned PCM from reptile.

**AmericanRiceEater** · 06-28-2010

Another thing is that these SSac headers delete the cat conv right?

**TheOtherNick** · 06-28-2010

If you dont put a new cat in then yes.

**AmericanRiceEater** · 06-28-2010

Will it have any damaging effects on my engine, that is not having a cat conv.

**BillBoost37** · 06-28-2010

I do a lot of installs here in the MA/CT area. I've actually found that dropping the sub a touch is the trick to a speedy install. And I don't have a lift.

SLP's and ZZP headers are a 2-3 hour job. I haven't tried the rest lately, but these I can confirm.

**Lawngoose** · 06-28-2010

Originally Posted by AmericanRiceEater

Will it have any damaging effects on my engine, that is not having a cat conv.

You can run without a cat with no harm. You will throw a SES light.. unless someone with a tuner deletes it for you.

**SlowNA06** · 06-28-2010

Well, don't I feel silly then.

**Ibwrong** · 06-29-2010

Originally Posted by AmericanRiceEater

Ya, i actually just got another call from a good friend who said he would do it for about $150, depending on how far the headers run back. So looks like this is getting done thursday and im moving on to a nicely tuned PCM from reptile.

If hes a good friend it wouldnt cost 150.... more like a case a beer.

**Bio248** · 06-29-2010

Originally Posted by Ibwrong

If hes a good friend it wouldnt cost 150.... more like a case a beer.

case of beer is a definite good payment for a 'friend'.

**blueguy** · 06-30-2010

It'd be more like bring McDonalds and a 30 pack.

**AmericanRiceEater** · 06-30-2010

ya too bad

**dsh1106** · 07-01-2010

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**blueguy** · 07-02-2010

Originally Posted by dsh1106

I just did a set of SD last week, took about 5 hours total. Biggest problen I had was beating the cowl area under the car to make room for the O2 sensor.

Seems to me like Speed Daddy changed up the o2 sensor's placement. SSAC's and the first set of DNA/SD's didn't have this issue