I am just saying...I wish I could have known what they did do to my 5 PCM's that were all in programming mode and didn't know what Programming Mode meant when I talked to them on the phone. After 2 tries and still wrong I should have given up. I was a nice guy and gave them MORE then enough chances. Plus they were assholes to me over the phone and e-mail. That's why I bad mouth them AND their product.