yeah....I installed my downpipe, I broke one of the studs off in the mainfold and had to have someone take over the install for me. I still got rapped on the charges for it. First they quotes me $400, I said yeah not thanks. Then he said $350, I said there isn't a chance I'm going to go for anything that high. Finally we settles on $200 for it said and done and he'd have it done that day. Got rapped but oh well.