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05-30-2009
Hey guys. I'm at kinda a crossroads right now. I was wpnderin what everyone thinks I should do next to my car for go fast parts. I trust u guys more than the tech guys from a company so here it is. I've got a basic 3.4 setup with 180 tstat,3" catless dp,plog,dhp pcm,cai,and tb spacer. I've already talked to bio(thanks for the input nick) and was wonderin where I should go. I don't have a ton of money,but some say 1.9 rockers maybe? Intercooler? And from what company?thanks guys
05-30-2009
Since you already have a down pipe and p-log. There is no need for headers.
We sell intercoolers for 450 bucks. For a Stage 2 phenolic version.
Would you be willing to put a cam in your car? If not rockers are the next best thing.
05-31-2009
That's the price of your IC kit?Originally Posted by TDCRacing
05-31-2009
Just the price of the phenolic intercooler itself.That's the price of your IC kit?
05-30-2009
Well hell that's not a bad price for a full size. And prob not on the cam but I was thinkin pretty hard bout rockers
05-30-2009
Just let me know i'd be glad to help.
I used to have 1.9 rockers. When I had the 3.4 and the p-log and DP. The car was pretty fast. It's a whole nother beat though when you have a full size I/C, 2.8 and a XP cam.
If you do go with the rockers don't go broke with ZZP's but instead get your self a good set of ROLLER rockers.
05-30-2009
I will thanks. But rollers r more expensive right? What's wrong with zzps?
05-30-2009
The problem with ZZP's is they charge a core on their rockers now. And they are almost as much as rollers. And the difference in valve train stability and extra power you will get out of the roller rockers is well worth the money.
05-30-2009
Ah I see. Well ill take that into consideration. Roller rockers would b a nice touch. R rockers hard to change out? Need any special tools?
05-30-2009
Nope nothing special. An hour job tops (and that's only because you have to take the alternator off to remove the rear valve cover.
Other than that a 3/8 ratchet and a 3/8 socket (I think it's a 3/8 socket.)
05-30-2009
Right on. Sounds pretty easy. I'm new to these cars but I've done all my upgrades myself so I'm sure I can do it. So which one gives the more bang for the buck? Rockers would b easier to install that's for sure
05-31-2009
Best bang for the buck would be the cam for sure. I would get nothing less than somthing similar to a XP to make it worth while.
But your looking at needing valve springs also. If your not willing to do all of that then I would just throw some roller rockers on it.
05-31-2009
my rockers will be up for sale soon. no core charge on these babies.
05-31-2009
rockers were very easy to change out. i LOVE my roller rockers.
i would also suggest meth injection in there some where.
parker, what would a complete full size intercooler kit cost. fmhe, pump, core.
05-31-2009
FMHE 150.00
Intercooler 450.00
Bosch Cobra pump with harness 119.00
The intercooler it's self is 200 bucks cheaper than ZZP's aluminum version!
05-31-2009
What do u have bio? How much?
05-31-2009
He has the modded 1.9's from ZZP I think. Only downside is since you have the PCM and it shifts at 6200 you are going to need stronger valve springs...unless you get the rockers and turn the shift points down to 6,000 or less. Otherwise with the higher lift you are going to get valve float if you have stock springs and shift over 6K. Just something to keep in mind
05-31-2009
Yeah I read about the shift rpm problem on zzps website. Yeah that pcm raised my shift points alright. So bios just got the modded 1.9s and not rollers huh? Well I wonder how much? I was never plannin on doin a cam or valvesprings to my car. Would rockers change driveability?
05-31-2009
if it looks like it is shifting at 6200 on the tach then it is shifting at 6000 truly. the tach is off and going higher than it is actually going.
yes, the ZZP modded 1.9s are on my car. they work great on stock valve springs. they really wake up the car for the price of them. i was planning on selling them for $200.
05-31-2009
The hell they do... I have a broken stock spring in my garage from running my Intense 1.9 rockers. I was only shifting at 6k too, never any higher. I ran the rockers 60,000 miles before the spring broke. The WASN'T a fluke deal either, there are several on ClubGP who have had this happen too with much lower miles on there rocker setup.yes, the ZZP modded 1.9s are on my car. they work great on stock valve springs.
Don't halfass it, if your gonna buy rockers do the springs/retainers too... unless you want to drop a valve. While you're in there you might as well replace the seals too...
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