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    I'm not sure if this is the right place for this post or not, but I was wondering if anyone had advice on negotiating pricing on a used car from a dealer? We found a couple of cars we are interested in and will be going to test drive. I know with a new car (especially if you're ordering it) it's best to negotiate through email/phone before you go in. Thanks in advance!
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    Go in, drive it, give them an offer and go from there. They will have the price jacked up $3-4k higher than what they have in it. Lowball it and see what happens.....the worst they can say is no.

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    Never go into a dealer having to buy a car. I go in dressed however I am for the day. Most of the time, that's jeans, t shirt and some dirt. Keep in mind you don't have to buy.

    Check CL first for prices on the same car with comparable miles etc. I've never negotiated over the phone/email.
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    news flash, if your going to a gm dealer your paying pretty much sticker minus what re baits your able to get. they wont drop the f ing price much if at all these days off the sticker. im pretty sure this is how they are paying back the government loans they took some years back in the bail out.

    been truck shopping with my friend, we've been to 4 dealers, all the same bs.

    one example: cab and chassis was 42,000 the dump was 8 grand more. with tax it came to over 50 grand. before tax with re-baits it came to 42,000 add tax and dealer prep and the hidden charges and it was right back at the sticker price,,,,,see what happens ?


    the truth is you much better off buying a car that just came off a 2 year lease. you'll pay more then 1/2 price for it. betr then full price and its still under warranty.


    how your dressed means nothing. your credit report does all the talking if your getting a loan.

    if you qualify for zero interest loan, get that, free money is better then money off and apr loan. if you do the math, the free loan is better then a loan with interest. do the math over 5 years. no interest wins. even tho your paying 4 to 5 grand more on the sticker. finance charges will be more most of the time.

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    for a used car ask to take it to a local garage for a independent inspection. have the shop write up a list and price to fix every thing they find wrong, use that as leverage on the price. if they wont let your take it some where walk asap, and tell him hes a asshole lol


    your gonna have to pay for this inspection but its worth it if the shop finds things wrong. 50 to 100 bucks tops. maybe less. all shops are different.

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    Also, watch what you sign when you get the car if you're getting financing. I have a brother that worked for a GM supplier, so I could get any car at "invoice" price (this is back before invoice pricing was a gimmick). I went to a dealer here, and told them that. No haggling, just drew up the paperwork. Went in the next day to get the car, and the monthly payment was $125/month higher than it was the day before. I asked why, and they said the interest rate was higher than what they had hoped and blah blah blah...I asked what they hoped for and what it ended up being that would add up to $125/month, and it was half a point...then I looked closer, and the price they worked everything out with was sticker...The finance guy called the sales manager in to the office, and as soon as he walked in, the sales manager looked at me and said, "Oh...you're that guy with the brother in Detroit, aren't you? Yeah...give it to him at invoice..." then he walked out. Seems this dealer was notorious for negotiating a deal, then ignoring it and doing all deals at sticker price. They were closed 6 months later...lol
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    I thought you meant Richard Petty...
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    New car dealerships used to, and many still utilize high pressure tactics in sales. Leases may be a little different as the comeback money on them are much higher. The dealer keeps the residual value on trade-ins and make the most money on re-sales. New car pricing is controlled from the parent corp and dealers make much less money on them with the exception of dealer incentives and reward programs for sale volume you and I don't see, ie, it doesn't trickle down to the sticker. As a matter of fact, if its a hot commodity item, you'll pay way above sticker if you are lucky enough to catch a dealer who as it and is willing to sell it to YOU. Lol...


    So anyway, do not walk into a dealer unarmed... Know what you are looking for BEFORE you go to dealers, new or used. Know the vehicle, the options and pricing available. If used, check KBB.com, CL, etc., for pricing comparatives to keep them honest. Remember too, with used, the dealer will bandaid and polish them to cover over wear and other issues. New tires on a used car is never a good thing IMO. Likewise if it looks like a new coat of paint... Unfortunately, reading and people telling you cannot replace experience. If you find something you like, ask for the sale to be reserved until you have someone else look it over with you, new or used. Never, ever accept, the deal is good until you walk out the door! If that's the deal, then walk!

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    cash is king........and talks loudly!


    i paid cash too for my regal. i also took it to a shop to be looked over, came out with a bill for 2 grand to fix it. they wanted 1600 for it. i came back with a $500 offer. he shot that down. then i said 6? he called his boss from the lot, then said 1000, i said 800 or im out. SOLD SOLD SOLD!

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    Thanks! A lot of great info. One of the cars we are looking at is a 2007 GXP. It has 75k miles on it and they are asking $11,490. It was originally a rental (first 13k according to CarFax) and was in one accident. I just spoke to someone at the dealer and she said the airbag did not deploy and the report says no structural damage. She also said the leather has some normal wear (whatever that means).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmsmith2032 View Post
    Thanks! A lot of great info. One of the cars we are looking at is a 2007 GXP. It has 75k miles on it and they are asking $11,490. It was originally a rental (first 13k according to CarFax) and was in one accident. I just spoke to someone at the dealer and she said the airbag did not deploy and the report says no structural damage. She also said the leather has some normal wear (whatever that means).

    id keep looking. f a rental car. and a crash? walk on by dont look back.

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    So an accident and the fact that is was used as a rental are a deal breaker? Even if I took it to a mechanic and it checked out okay?
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    Depends how much it was beaten while being a rental and being a GXP the trans could be ready to give out. I would say the accident would depend on where it was and how bad it was. But like Scotty said walk from that, I know how my family treats rental cars and I would never buy one. When my family went to SC for vacation when I was little one year my dad rented a tarus for work and neutral dropped it.

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    Isn't the maintenance on a rental better though?
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    Like as in the rental company putting money in it? I doubt it, they just probably clean the inside and out and don't bother with the rest unless something break but thats just a guess because it would cost them money and "if it ain't broke don't fix it" probably applies,

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    Anything that's not a minivan that was a rental - walk away from it. The phrase, "Drive it like a rental" exists for a reason. Our minivan was a rental, but people don't rent minivans to beat on...they rent minivans to drive to Florida. lol
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    not everyone beats on a rental car. but lord knows i've beaten the living crap out every one ive had. even the 3 cylinder mazda i got stuck with. it did 1/2 descent neutral drops, to bad the rev limiter was set so damn low lol it got floored everywhere it went cause i could run faster then it went .

    every jeep, jimmy, or full size pick up i rented around the country came back with less tire then i got it too. the dodge pick up did some nice posi burn outs and would do a nice break stand too.

    see where im going with this. if the car has a oz of power people will abuse it....why? cause they dont own it!!!! and we dont f ing care one bit cause in 3 days ill never see it again.

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    Yup every rental car I have gotten I've beaten on. Why? Because it's not my car so I'm not paying for any mechanical damage. Plus I like to test how fast those little turds are. Last rental about 3 weeks ago was a Hyundai Accent.. Pure pos turd
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmsmith2032 View Post
    Isn't the maintenance on a rental better though?
    Why would you think this? I can't imagine any corporation caring about a car's life expectancy compared to an actual owner who may intend to have the car 10+ years. The rental company likely minimizes the amount of maintenance they perform because that is all money out the door.

    That being said I think my car was a rental and has been great. I try not to think about what it was put through in its rental days
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