was wondering whats the best set up (money is no object in this situation) a open cone on the end of my TB or one of those cold air intake by Wizard, K&N, ZZP. i just want better flow and the car to run better. its a 99 GTP
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04-01-2012
was wondering whats the best set up (money is no object in this situation) a open cone on the end of my TB or one of those cold air intake by Wizard, K&N, ZZP. i just want better flow and the car to run better. its a 99 GTP
04-01-2012
Make your own open cone HAI. Shown to produce lower ETs than the cold air.
04-01-2012
i know thats the cheaper route but im not worried about the cost just the over all performance
04-01-2012
Yeah, you said that in your first post. Same answer.
Many, many threads on different approaches to a homemade open cone. Look in the how-to section.
04-01-2012
why do they charge so much for CAI then? im a big believer in you get what you pay for
04-01-2012
Because people with no "do it yourself" drive/confidence and/or who want the cool name will pay big money for it.
Are they quality pieces? Absolutely.
Are they necessary or the best? No.
04-01-2012
I ran an HAI the first few weeks I owned my car, but eventually sprung for the Wizaired kit. It looks and performs better in my opinion.
04-01-2012
open cone is 30-50 bucks and CAI is 200+ if ones not significantly better then the other ill just stink with the open cone
04-01-2012
on a NA car a CAI would be best.
on a supercharged car flow reigns supreme and the best flow is open cone.
04-01-2012
right mine is supercharged
04-01-2012
It doesn't matter if you have a tube on it or you put the filter right on the throttle body.Originally Posted by fubar569
04-01-2012
colder air is better know matter how you think about it.
:4'' HAI\L67 HVTB\HV3\ER Rockers\WP underdrive pulley\Headers\cat delete\91 octane overkill incar tune.3.69 gears, Trans go shift kit.
04-01-2012
on a supercharged car that is 110% incorrect. absolute flow is what matters the most.
would colder air be better? not when your CAI sacrifices 100cfm of flow to achieve that extra 5 degree drop...
now on a NA car who's intake already flows sufficiently for the level of mods the CAI would be a better choice.
04-01-2012
true, but the m90 = lots of heat. Its going to heat up anyway. Open cone FTW
edit- you beat me to the punch.
04-01-2012
Word. That's why: meth injection/intercooling. For the money you spent on a CAI to get mediocre (at best) gains...save up for something that will actually help.
04-01-2012
100cfm?! So you are saying that the tube on my car is preventing me from having how much more HP?
04-01-2012
What people don't remember is that yes,
1.) The blower is going to heat it up anyway
2.) the crossover keeps the tb nice and warm.
So, open cone or hai... It don't matter.
04-01-2012
^^^^
TB
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Crossover
Crossover = very hot
Heat rises
TB = Very hot
Even if you're pulling from the fender on a typical, let's say 75 degree day. By the time it gets through the warm piping that's already engine bay temps, and goes through the downright hot tb and intake manifold... how much of a difference in temp vs the engine bay air will there be on NA?
Especially after it gets compressed and heated by the m90 on OP's car
04-01-2012
And if youre in FL, even "cold" air from the fender is a minimum of 85 degrees. Usually well over 100 on the asphalt.
04-01-2012
The M90 doesnt compress. It just shovels the air in. To the OP, pick whatever air intake suits your fancy. You will not notice a difference between any one you choose, no matter how expensive it is. It's really just eye candy. You really want to notice a difference, intercool. That way you are cooling the air after its gone through all the hot parts.
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