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    Is there really a big difference when going without a cat. How much of a horsepower difference is it with your basic 3.4 setup.
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    No difference whatsoever. The cat is only there for emissions purposes that is all.
    -Edit- There might be a slight difference in the exhaust note but that is about it.
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    it changes nothing. i ran no cat for a while, the added a hi flow cat. sounds the same.

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    I removed my cat, wish I hadn't...let's more of the exhaust fumes out. smelly.
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    The cat breaks up the bark on de-accel and also removes the bark/rasp that you will get occasionally around 2500-3000 rpm

    im also fairly certain the amount of soot on my tailpipes is from removing the cat.
    I never used to get it on my GMPP catback tips until I went cat less.
    My other car I had 6 years never had soot on the magnaflow cat back tip until I removed the cat.

    I didn't notice anything performance wise. Just more rasp and soot once it's removed
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    If there are no real gains why do so many people go without a cat?
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    they cost money, and if you dont have inspection why run one is the mentality.

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    I'm gonna keep mine catted just to keep things clean. lol

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    All this is definitely news to me. I always thought that most people went without a cat for performance reasons.
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    in the 80's maybe. not for these cars.

    like i said, if you need a cat get a 50 dollar hi flow one off ebay. have the rear o2 and cat codes deleted and your done.

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    These cats are of the monilith type and offer little restriction as compared to pellet cats from when converters didn't belong on performance stuff. One reason to run a cat on a 3800 W-body is smell. The exhaust stinks less with a cat. Performance gains on a mild build from going catless are negligible.
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    I don't mind the catless exhaust, sure it's a stronger smell and burns the eyes and slowly kills me but that's the fun right?

    There would be a point at which a cat converter wouldn't even be considered but that's at a power level that creates so much heat they would melt down all the time. Talking like big turbo power here.

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    My favorite saying used to be "If it has an unleaded sticker on it, its too new." but a few years ago I ran the GT with gutted cat for a short time, and maaan... it would gag a maggot on cold starts. This, coming from a carb lover!
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    That's why I'm keeping mine catted. I like being able to breathe... lol

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