Powerbass Brand? And a few general questions

**2dee11** · 06-29-2013

Hey guys. I've recently started hanging out with some kids from another local school who are into cars as much as I am and they all rock powerbass subs and sometimes their amps and even component speakers as well... Has anyone heard anything about this brand? And info? Currently I have some higher end pioneers so I'm guessing that powerbass is better?

Also in looking to "conform" to powerbass I found "brand new" 15s on Craigslist for cheaper than brand new 12s on amazon both being their "3xl" series which is their top series only problem is the 15s are 1000rms a piece and I have a 1200watt hifonics Brutus amp so at max I'd be able to do 600 rms to each running my amp on full power but that's bad on the amp so maybe I'd be able to do 500 to each? How low is too low when powering an amp? And any suggestions on good quality budget amps that I could use for the 15s? Or just buy another hifonics Brutus? (What you guys referred me to originally)

**maverickdog8** · 06-30-2013

For starters powerbass is decent, but for the money better can be had for sure. There is no such thing as under powering a sub so your amp will work just fine until you can pick up a bigger one to use.

I'm a fan of the higher end pioneer stuff so I would personally say no powerbass comes anywhere near the higher end pioneer stuff. Especially the components.

**tc300** · 07-03-2013

Originally Posted by maverickdog8

. There is no such thing as under powering a sub so your amp will work just fine until you can pick up a bigger one to use.

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True, but find me someone who isnt happy with the bass and then decides to crank up the gain...??!! Happens all too many times resulting sub failure.

**2dee11** · 07-03-2013

So if you are under powering it and decide to up it you should gradually do it over like say a week?

**tc300** · 07-04-2013

Originally Posted by 2dee11

So if you are under powering it and decide to up it you should gradually do it over like say a week?

Man I really REALLY hope you are being sarcastic.... Lol.

**2dee11** · 06-30-2013

Really? I have the Pioneer TS-W309D4 and all the powerbass I've heard sound better. They're usually the higher end powerbass though

**maverickdog8** · 06-30-2013

All about the box. I can make a Sony xplod sub sound good in the right designed and built box.

And that pioneer is one of the lowest lines of subs pioneer makes.

**simbah** · 06-30-2013

Just remember this, What sounds good to you may not sound good to someone else and what sounds good to someone else may not be to your liking. So with that said it doesn't really matter which brand is better than the others, all that matters is, what you the person listening to the system the most enjoys listening to. So high end Pioneer may sound good to one may sound like crap to someone else. So my recommendation to anyone buying car audio is this. Go out and listen to as many different brands that you can and decide which one sounds best to your ear and not someone else. Oh other people may recommend certain brands over others, nothing wrong with that, just take their recommendations as suggestions and decide what is best for you, your budget and your listening tastes. Thanks for you participation.

**2dee11** · 06-30-2013

Maverick- on their website it's the highest of their champion series and there's only one better which is the champion series pro

Simbah - well said I couldn't agree more

**maverickdog8** · 07-01-2013

I can get the one you listed for $60-$70 new. Pioneer is more SQ now than anything, components, amps, and decks. There subs are nowhere near the quality I remember. They use to be monsters.

**2dee11** · 07-02-2013

I got the ones I have for $110 total. Off sonicelectronix so $55 a piece...

**maverickdog8** · 07-02-2013

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...rs/TS-W5000SPL

That's the pioneer that I remember.

**2dee11** · 07-02-2013

Do they stil sell those or is that an old model? How'd you find it?

**maverickdog8** · 07-02-2013

Old model. It's the old pioneer premier spl line. I just asked a buddy what the name was cuz I honestly could not remember.

**2dee11** · 07-02-2013

gotcha, so pioneer has dropped off a little bit?

**maverickdog8** · 07-02-2013

A little yes. There SQ is still there tho. I can ramble for days about subs that get loud and sound good but it's all about picking something that suits what you want and building(or having someone build you) a box for it. It's a lot about the box.

**2dee11** · 07-02-2013

okay thanks for the info!

**maverickdog8** · 07-03-2013

Gain goes to 3/4 at the very most. When you crank it you send a clipped signal through the subs which hurts them.

**blakgtp** · 07-03-2013

Originally Posted by maverickdog8

Gain goes to 3/4 at the very most. When you crank it you send a clipped signal through the subs which hurts them.

this can vary. I had a re amp that would only go 1/2 without distorting, but my american bass would go 3/4 or a bit more. but yeah most ppl say 3/4 as a general guideline. I like to use a dd1 to set gains now. Nice to know for sure

**tc300** · 07-04-2013

I would say 87% of ppl and some shops set gains by ear.... If your going to spend the $$ on car audio no matter if it's a $277 set up or a $2k + system.. Atleast do it right! Will sound better and last a lot LONGER!! Overall you will be more than happy with a well tuned system as opposed to one thrown together