View Poll Results: Does it behoove me to increase my budget for speakers and or replace my head unit?

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  1. #1 2000 Audio Installation suggestions 
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    Recently purchased a 2000 GP GTP and am under the impression that the speakers need replaced since only the drivers door is producing any sound at all. I'm going to assume they are all blown unless someone else has had this problem... My town has no proper car audio shop any longer so I have lots of (probably silly) questions. Please advize with these things in mind: I would rather not do lots of labor intensive modding, I don't need a system to blow away anything else in town, I don't have that kind of budget. I would like to have a reliable system thats louder than stock systems, I'm not interested in winning any audio competitions.

    Key Components already owned:

    2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP w/HUD
    Pioneer DEH 16 50wx4 channel Head unit
    VR3 2 channel 200w amp
    Stock Chrysler 6x9 speakers
    Roadmaster RTS200C Cabinet Speakers (rated at 300W total peak for two 6.5" speakers... supposedly...)
    *all audio components were last used and working in 2007 and have been stored indoors

    Problem 1: Head Unit Install
    I may eventually upgrade the head unit in the future for a unit with aux-in and a higher power output (any reasonable reccomendations?). The problem is I haven't been able to find a dash mount install kit that would fit my 2000. I've seen soooo many that are -1999 and 2001+ . What kit (flushmount if possible) fits the 2000? I would like to preserve my HUD station indicator and wheel functions as well. Assuming that the dash install kit doesn't come with one, what Wiring Harness/Adapter would allow for that?

    Problem 2: Speakers
    I found that the GP has 4 speakers. 2 door mounted 5.25" and 2 rear deck mounted 6"x9". It seems worth it to upgrade to a full 6.5" in the doors. Is there a simple method of doing so? I was thinking weather stripping and a drill if neccessary... is there an easier or better way? On a budget of about $75-$100 (for all 4) what speakers are reccomended and will the budget withstand my request for beating out the quality and volume of stock audio systems? It does Occur to me that I could take out the 6.6" speakers from the roadmaster cabinet pair and install those maybe? I question their power output and reliability not to mention full range ability... They are a Woofer + Tweeter combo cabinets. I also have my used Chrysler speakers but again question their output and reliability. I would just prefer to use the Woofers and or Chrysler 6X9's with the AMP in addition to replacing the GP's speakers or not use those at all.

    I appreciate your time and kindness. ~Thank You~

    Update:

    Owned components to be used
    -2000 GP GTP
    -VR3 200W Amp

    Components to be purchased and installed
    -Head Unit: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...ditionalImage1"
    -Microphone: http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/sto...52921665804560
    -Front Speakers: http://www.amazon.com/PIONEER-TS-A16...=2PGEJA4ZI467P
    -Rear Speakers: http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-A69...=2PGEJA4ZI467P
    Last edited by rocketman1989; 01-14-2012 at 05:48 AM. Reason: Update
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    What kit (flushmount if possible) fits the 2000?
    Pontiac In-dash Receiver Kit Fits select 1994-up models Chassis size E at Crutchfield.com









    I would like to preserve my HUD station indicator and wheel functions as well. Assuming that the dash install kit doesn't come with one, what Wiring Harness/Adapter would allow for that?

    Hud will not be affected by changing your head unit.
    For a pioneer unit, to retain steering wheel controls, you'll need this pac-audio unit Pac-Audio.com Product Details | iPod Integration for your car and More by Pac-Audio - Connecting you to the future









    Problem 2: Speakers
    I found that the GP has 4 speakers. 2 door mounted 5.25" and 2 rear deck mounted 6"x9". It seems worth it to upgrade to a full 6.5" in the doors. Is there a simple method of doing so? I was thinking weather stripping and a drill if neccessary... is there an easier or better way?

    http://www.collectingpez.com/GP/GotPez_65upgrade.pdf








    On a budget of about $75-$100 (for all 4) what speakers are reccomended and will the budget withstand my request for beating out the quality and volume of stock audio systems?

    Thats a LOW LOW budget for 4 good speakers... My 2 rears cost more than that. If that's your budget, look at a lot of reviews on Amazon of speakers in your price range.









    It does Occur to me that I could take out the 6.6" speakers from the roadmaster cabinet pair and install those maybe? I question their power output and reliability not to mention full range ability... They are a Woofer + Tweeter combo cabinets. I also have my used Chrysler speakers but again question their output and reliability. I would just prefer to use the Woofers and or Chrysler 6X9's with the AMP in addition to replacing the GP's speakers or not use those at all.

    I would avoid using cabinet speakers in a car. They are designed for large spaces and not generally made for highs and lows the same way as a car speaker. Your Chrysler speakers won't go in without a custom mount. Just save money for GOOD speakers so you only have to replace them once.
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    Spade speaketh the truth. You could spend the speaker budget on a decent set of front speakers, and leave the rears stock for now. Most car audio people don't run rear fill anyway (I do ). You can upgrade the rears whenever you get around to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy501 View Post
    Spade speaketh the truth. You could spend the speaker budget on a decent set of front speakers, and leave the rears stock for now. Most car audio people don't run rear fill anyway (I do ). You can upgrade the rears whenever you get around to it.
    Proper Rear fill includes:

    Bandpassed ~3000hz to 300hz
    L minus R
    Attenuated
    Time delayed by 20ms

    If you just play the same stereo channel as the front two speakers then you've created two stages that are competing against each other. That's why "most" car audio enthusiasts choose not to use rear speakers. Rear fill is what I posted above
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    Thank you for you insightful advice. It has not been wasted. Upon further research I bumped my budget but just a little and intend to replace the head unit. As I have chosen all the components, I want to use and am left with but one further question; How do I maintain steering wheel function on a sony head unit? Specifically: MEX-BT3900U | XplMd™ Bluetooth® CD Receiver| Sony | Sony Style USA
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    IMO i've owned a Sony HU before they arn't bad but its the same quality as a stock HU, thats just IMO.
    There's alot better head units that can be had for less price, heres the website i have been buying off of for a few years: http://www.sonicelectronix.com
    what i would get with the 180 you plan on spending on a sony:
    http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...KD-R820BT.html

    regardless on HU you will need this for the steering wheel controls:
    Axxess ASWC Universal Steering Wheel Control Interface
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