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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithGTP03 View Post
    Then you just need a dual 2ohm voice coil sub....or 2 2ohm single voice coil subs.
    side note not many 2ohm SVC but if you where to get 2 4ohm DVC like myself you can wire to 1ohm
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    HART Professional Subs. Best on the market, hands down! I have 2 10" HARTs. They use square copper wire for the voice coils = more efficient. Also I think they are the most expensive on the market. GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by lambokit View Post
    HART Professional Subs. Best on the market, hands down! I have 2 10" HARTs. They use square copper wire for the voice coils = more efficient. Also I think they are the most expensive on the market. GL
    Those are old!
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    My sub fails. It's a CVR10 4ohm DVC sub. It is wired in parallel like above though.
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    Sundown SD-2 10/12 "500-Watt" Subwoofer Pre-Order - Car Audio Classifieds
    theres a break for you plenty of sub made for a shallow mount and at a pre-order price
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    ok so 10'' bazooka sub is 300$ canadian installed! no amp needed cuz it has a built in amplifier. so all you need is an aftermarket head unit! sounds good too better than a friend of mines 12'' mtx sub.
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    A bazooka tube? It may do what he needs... but, honestly, a bazooka tube sounds like a well-executed front stage to me. Seems to lack in the bottom end. Go with an Obsidian 12" sub.... Obsidian Car Audio . It was 160 shipped to my door. For a cheap sub, the thing is beast. It's a joint venture between Jacob of Sundown Audio and Nick of Stereo Integrity. The AQ amp is nice, but I went with an Audiopipe APSM-1300.... about 800 rms of clean power for 110 from Amazon. I'm sure you can figure out your box and wiring after that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy501 View Post
    A bazooka tube? It may do what he needs... but, honestly, a bazooka tube sounds like a well-executed front stage to me. Seems to lack in the bottom end. Go with an Obsidian 12" sub.... Obsidian Car Audio . It was 160 shipped to my door. For a cheap sub, the thing is beast. It's a joint venture between Jacob of Sundown Audio and Nick of Stereo Integrity. The AQ amp is nice, but I went with an Audiopipe APSM-1300.... about 800 rms of clean power for 110 from Amazon. I'm sure you can figure out your box and wiring after that point.
    Those look decent and ive never heard of them...which is rare!!! Paper cone ftw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bandits grand prix View Post
    if you didnt live so far away id sell you my 2 12" kicker comps and amp for cheap. but any way you gunna need a good headunit, a wiring kit, a capasitor(idk if i spelled that rite), and the amp and subs of coarse.
    I haven't read this thread through yet but I'd like to address this issue now. YOU DO NOT NEED A CAPACITOR!!! EVER!!! A properly designed circuit already has the capacitance built in. Therefore, a good amplifier does not need an external capacitor...EVER!!!

    How many capacitors do you see in home audio?...anywhere else in the electronics world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1LoudGrandPrix View Post
    Sundown SD-2 10/12 "500-Watt" Subwoofer Pre-Order - Car Audio Classifieds
    theres a break for you plenty of sub made for a shallow mount and at a pre-order price
    Might have to get one
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    also another sub thats on pre order atm
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    Quote Originally Posted by I800C0LLECT View Post
    I haven't read this thread through yet but I'd like to address this issue now. YOU DO NOT NEED A CAPACITOR!!! EVER!!! A properly designed circuit already has the capacitance built in. Therefore, a good amplifier does not need an external capacitor...EVER!!!

    How many capacitors do you see in home audio?...anywhere else in the electronics world?
    Actually, the super-SQ crowd sometimes utilizes them to clean up the signal a bit. However, these aren't the run-of-the-mill units seen on a day to day basis.... they're expensive as hell!
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    they use them for looks anything that looks cool really just a waste of money, if a sq guy runs it ether he has a cheap ass amp or wants it to look cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy501 View Post
    Actually, the super-SQ crowd sometimes utilizes them to clean up the signal a bit. However, these aren't the run-of-the-mill units seen on a day to day basis.... they're expensive as hell!
    In circuit design you can utilize capacitors to keep ripple down...blah blah blah. Again, if your power supply is designed and fabricated correctly within your amplifier then it's not needed.

    Let me give you an idea on how big 1 farad actually is...



    Granted, it's only 5.5V, but imagine putting 5 of them in series and placing them in parallel with another set of 5. That would mean they kick in somewhere around 13.75V and you'd have 10Farads ....too bad they're useless.

    You can buy them here if interested...$3.75 a piece!

    http://www.allspectrum.com/store/1-f...old-p-261.html


    The reason "SQ" guys first utilized them in the 80's was because the voltage regulator (back then was independent of the alternator) had a hard time responding quickly enough to voltage dips associated with an amplifier's irregular pull. Therefore, they added capacitance to the light circuit in a vehicle because they did not want to lose valuable points in their competition. It had absolutely NOTHING to do with the sound quality. In SQ you get points for your environment/setting. It's gay. Show me an "SQ" car and I'll show you that it has nothing to do with the sound. Sound quality is the last thing they test and it's VERY brief. Typically, the assumption is that if it's an SQ car then it probably sounds damn good. So they look real quick to see if you have the basics and there isn't much past that. Believe it or not...SQ is very trendy and cliqu'ish.

    The biggest reason they don't focus on "sound quality" so much is because every listener has their own predisposition. Nobody is proportionately the same. Different ears, head shapes, body shapes, etc. All of those things effect how YOU hear the sound. Good vs. bad is VERY subjective.
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    True... thanks for the info. I've never messed with capacitors personally... all of my sq info is from DIYMA lol... I don't have the patience for that. I'm strictly a groundpounder.
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    DIYMA isn't what it used to be
    11 is louder than 10!
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    I have heard that people that add capasitors really do clean up the "headlight dim" issues when you get the system going loud? Is that more of a placebo effect or what?
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    No...it's probably true. Because they have crappy amps and/or poor grounds. Most audio installs don't have solid grounds. Capacitors will help a system that doesn't have enough flow through the ground point.
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    Indeed... the big 3 will also go a long way to reducing/preventing headlight dimming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatboy501 View Post
    Indeed... the big 3 will also go a long way to reducing/preventing headlight dimming.
    I agree 100%. BTW, your name looks familiar. You on any audio forums at all?
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