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  1. #1 HID issue (plus, "HI!") 
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    First post and its a technical question...go figure huh? Typical n00b, lol!

    Quick background: sold my 00 Blazer daily and bought a 99 GTP for my new daily. I also have a fully customized and bagged 95 Blazer.

    Ok, now the problem: installed an HID pnp kit and relay harness into my 99 GTP today. Its a 9007 hi/low (telscoping) kit.

    Problem #1, my highbeams dont work (which, i guess im fine with...I dont use the hb's on my other two trucks with hid anyways)
    #2, on my dash, my hb light is now on (but barely) instead of being off
    #3, my fog light switch does NOT illuminate
    #4, my fog lights will only come on when i manually turn my headlight knob to 'on'. If I then turn my lights off, then back on, the fogs will not come back on. If i click the fogs 'off' then back on, they will not come back on. If I 'flash to pass' or click the hbs on, i can not turn the fogs back on.
    #5, when I use the RKE to lock my car, the foglights now also flash with the headlamps to show my car locked (which is weird)

    Everything worked fine in terms of highbeams and fog lights until i installed my hid kit.

    Anyhelp please? Im loosing my mind (and freezing my butt of in the dark trying to figure it out!)
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    Because I will get asked how im wired, basically the same as DDE's instructions:
    https://www.ddmtuning.com/support/in...emid=1&nav=0,1
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    First advice I have pull your DRL fuse.

    and also to help with the highs.. You probably only have the bulb type set up that is lows only
    SOLD 1999 GT Silvermist TS
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    Thanks for the reply Gafford!
    I have pulled the DRL and even went for a cruise around the block incase the BCM needed to cycle or somthing.

    And it is for sure a 9007/9004 telscoping hi/lo kit cause its got a MASSIVE magnet in the base the pushes the filment up and down. It also has the two wire high/low function with the m and f plugs too.
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    I can be no help then. I have never tinkered with a HI/LO kit only a LO kit.
    SOLD 1999 GT Silvermist TS
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    After HOURS of reading, seems like the wires in my kits socket that goes to my OEM plug may be reversed:

    HID_Headlights
    The terminals in the plug that goes to the factory headlight plug were in the wrong position, so I removed them and moved them match. Without doing this, the hi-beams were on all the time, and the hi-beam indicator was dimly illuminated when in the low-beam position
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    ClubGP Message Forum troubleshooting
    check your blue 9007 connector to be sure that the pinout is correct. Turns out in this kit that blue is common, and brown and white are your low and high +12 circuits. Not sure why it would be wired wrong from the manufacturer, but so be it... The problem here was that the relay box inverted the low and high functions
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    Fixed! All issues were because of inverted pins on my HID harness (on the right)...9004 must be opposite to 9007 wiring as these hi/lo kits are for both.
    See pics (pics courtesy of ClubGP):



    Now, awaiting my yellow fog bulbs and some time to push my DRLs from my headlights to my fogs as per BnB's write-up (no time today....off to tailgate and see Favre get "Suh'd" at the Lions game! Roarrrrrrrrrrr!)
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    I was going to ask if you checked the plug wires.
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    will switching the pins around do the same thing on a single beam kit
    i just installed mine today and the high beam light is on but just barely, and when i turn the headlamp switch to the parking lights and the lows the lights stay in but some times about the 3rd or 4th time of switching back and forth just one light comes back on and then i toggle the switch again and it goes back to normal, is that suppost to do that or is it just because im not using a relay harness?(have one just not installed yet)
    oh and the kit is a 55w 8000k single beam kit for vvme

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpzelenak View Post
    will switching the pins around do the same thing on a single beam kit
    Yes.
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    thank you,
    will having it like that hurt anything?(before the fix, with the light dim)
    i wont be able to fix it for a couple days

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpzelenak View Post
    will having it like that hurt anything?(before the fix, with the light dim) i wont be able to fix it for a couple days
    You should be ok, but you are backfeeding the circuit. Seen people do worse for longer and not have any major issues.
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    ok ill try to get around to it soon
    so since i have an single beam kit i only have 2 wires in the blue plug thing, so all i have to do is swap around the 2 wires in the blue plug thing right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpzelenak View Post
    .....since i have an single beam kit i only have 2 wires in the blue plug thing, so all i have to do is swap around the 2 wires in the blue plug thing right?
    It may not just be a "swap around"; you need to put them in the correct location. Bu ya, it's that easy.
    Last edited by Bronco Boy; 04-25-2011 at 08:54 PM.
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    well i found out this morning that its not my head lights causing the light to be dim it the fogs and the fogs just plug in with 2 wires, power and ground so i guessed and pluged the black to black and red to like a purple color wire, so i got an wiring diagram for the fogs and it looks like i got it right, so now im thinking the even tho the light turns off when the lows are off, that there still the problem, but when i turn the lows off, with the fogs on the light stays on but when i turn the fogs off too the light turns off, but since i still have the auto light thingy, could that be why its doing that?
    ill post a pic of the diagrams i have, i got the drls inputs and outputs and the fog lights

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    ok heres the fogs

    inputs

    and the outputs
    Last edited by dpzelenak; 04-26-2011 at 03:13 PM.

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