Kevlar Speakers.... ?

[bigboibbp]

okay, so being a dj and somewhat audiophile, i must say that to my ears not many other speaker materials sound as good. so knowing that i know absolute nothing about car audio...

i am looking for a great set of Kevlar speakers...
anyone got any recommendations?
should i be looking at a different material?

now just to explain a bit more... im not looking for subwoofers, i really do not want a subwoofer box in my car, and if i do end up getting one it will be small and discrete. im mostly looking for speakers and possibly an amp if you have some recommendations.

Thanks

[matt5112]

Kevlar = breakup in the midrange.

Which is bad.

[bigboibbp]

ive never have had ANY problems with kevlar woven speakers...

and im really not looking to much into a cost here, i do have a budget but i also have alot of hook ups in the automotive industry.

any reccomendations for speakers... (not a big fan of putting a subwoofer in my car)

[Lawngoose]

I always enjoyed my molded polypropylene subs back in the day.

[bigboibbp]

i doubt that molded polypropylene is better then kevlar tho, molded polypropylene is a heavier material which would give it better bass qualities, but im looking for kevlar because its alot clearer.

[matt5112]

ive never have had ANY problems with kevlar woven speakers...

and im really not looking to much into a cost here, i do have a budget but i also have alot of hook ups in the automotive industry.

any reccomendations for speakers... (not a big fan of putting a subwoofer in my car)

Its because you don't run them high enough, try running a decent sized hard cone woofer past 2 KHz. You'll quickly regret it.

Try partexpress and madisound.

I always enjoyed my molded polypropylene subs back in the day.

Because thats the second best cone material of the 90's.

i doubt that molded polypropylene is better then kevlar tho, molded polypropylene is a heavier material which would give it better bass qualities, but im looking for kevlar because its alot clearer.

Find a good paper cone woofer and you'll be amazed at what paper can do.

Just get these if you don't really care: Parts-Express.comayton RS150-4 6" Reference Woofer 4 Ohm | rs225-4 6" woofer midbass rs aluminum cone woofer phase plug dayton daySpeakers123008 daySpeakers123008

[rynoman03]

Dayton Makes some nice Home Audio stuff for a decent price.

[matt5112]

Dayton Makes some nice Home Audio stuff for a decent price.

And if you can't figure out how to get it to work in a car...

[bigboibbp]

Its because you don't run them high enough, try running a decent sized hard cone woofer past 2 KHz. You'll quickly regret it.

Try partexpress and madisound.



Because thats the second best cone material of the 90's.



Find a good paper cone woofer and you'll be amazed at what paper can do.

Just get these if you don't really care: Parts-Express.comayton RS150-4 6" Reference Woofer 4 Ohm | rs225-4 6" woofer midbass rs aluminum cone woofer phase plug dayton daySpeakers123008 daySpeakers123008

i run kevlar pro audio setups all the time, and they are the clearest and most durable ive used. like ive said im a dj not a automotive sound engineer so while i may not understand ur theory on kevlar speakers i am open to seeing what explinataions you have on them...

but since your obviously against kevlar... what material do you reccomend... and what actual speakers do you reccomend.

paper speakers are very clear but they arent durable, no way will a paper speaker out last a kevlar speaker at full output.

[matt5112]

If you keep the crossovers in the right range, they're good for the bass, but not so good in the midrange. See above link for a good hard cone woofer.

[I800C0LLECT]

treated paper cones = gewd times.

[MrTube]

I've always been told paper made the overall ultimate cone. Altho I will admit being a collector and restoring a lot of older highend equipment one of the most interesting woofers i've owned were 18" electrovoice with 1/2" thick styrofoam cones. They worked REALLY well, better then a quality paper cone? who knows. I never put one under a strobe to see breakup, but it sounded good. Most of the speakers I've used in the house over the years have had cones made from wood pulp, wool, asphalt and cotton mixed. which i guess is basically a "paper" cone in the end.

I've heard literally hundreds of speakers i thought sounded good. All have slightly different sounds to them. My all time favorite brands are 1970s ADVENT and 1980s-90s A/D/S/. the 12" a/d/s/ 312RS subs I have have aluminum cones, yet still have as much breakup as a paper cone I believe. Out of everything I've messed with in audio from tube amps to highend home amps like Bryston, the by far biggest improvement i've found is biamping or triamping using active crossovers and ditching the passive crossovers. I've built my own power amps for the house with a 200W woofer amp and 50W tweeter amp with onboard swappable linkwitz-riley crossovers.

[matt5112]

pro amps = BIG power on the cheap.

Also, speakers with high sensitivity + active crossover + high power pro amps = best sound system you've heard in a long time.