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    I have 4 speakers in the back dash and tweets and door speakers and they all say delco its power comes with the stock radio which is a tape deck with the eq,steering wheel controls. this is a 97 gp gt. My question is, is this the prem system and if it is is there an amp and where is it located? I pulled the trunk carpet up and nothing and nothing mounted underneath the rear deck.
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    i have a 98 gtp and dont have 1 either. im not 2 sure but i think they started with the amps in 99 or 2000 when they started using bose systems.
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    I have the premium system in my 2000 SE and I didn't find one. So I just put an Alpine deck, 2-12" Auidobahn subs, and a 1200w amp. Nothing better than a concert when you drive!
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    well thats what I want to do, I want to slap in my alpine deck with my alpine v12 amp, I have 2 options for my subs either my 2 12 inch kicker comps or my 10 inch precision power dvc comp sub, so either big box or lil box. Im going to see how they sound and go from there. I had 2 12`s in my monty and it just stomped but Im looking more for sound quality now. lol I just hope its just that easy with the deck to plug and play, I dont want to have to run wires all over just to bypass the factory amp.
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    I just ran a Rockford Fosgate power supply whatever from the battery to the trunk. The wires ran right up to my (must me 5-6 years old now?) Alpine deck. Whole set up cost me $400. Subs, amp, deck and wiring. Sound quality is unreal! I can make it do the soulja boy or the honkey-tonk stomp. Just depends on how you set it up and balance your audio in your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerStroker View Post
    I have the premium system in my 2000 SE and I didn't find one. So I just put an Alpine deck, 2-12" Auidobahn subs, and a 1200w amp. Nothing better than a concert when you drive!
    My front stock speakers wouldn't keep up with a pair of pioneer entry level 6x9s in the rear on bass duty only. I've got a setup which is good to 105-110 dB in the midrange and treble and it still can't keep up with two $13 12" subs with an RMS of 200 watts and an Xmax of 9mm getting fed 150 RMS watts in a 1 cubic foot box. See this: Elemental Designs
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    I remember someone saying they found their amp behind the glove box. The Sony Bose amp is located on the under part of the rear deck in the trunk.

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    I just got done installing the alpine deck, makes me realise stock raidos suck.lol this weekend Ill run the power and ground wire to the amp. but the sound it so mutch better now. Soon Ill upgrade all the speakers prolly after the new year.. anyone have sugestions for the int speakers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorenzojay View Post
    I just got done installing the alpine deck, makes me realise stock raidos suck.lol this weekend Ill run the power and ground wire to the amp. but the sound it so mutch better now. Soon Ill upgrade all the speakers prolly after the new year.. anyone have sugestions for the int speakers?
    You keeping stock positions? Do you want loud or sound quality? anddddddd budget.
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    I kept stock speakers and just balanced it right with my deck. Bass +/-0, Treble +3, Subwoofer +6-15 (depending on music), Balance +/-0, Fade +3. Keeps the treble up in front where you wanna hear it, and the bass behind you. Kick ass quality...

    I have just regular speakers by the way, I just looked today. 1200w amp does the trick!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerStroker View Post
    I kept stock speakers and just balanced it right with my deck. Bass +/-0, Treble +3, Subwoofer +6-15 (depending on music), Balance +/-0, Fade +3. Keeps the treble up in front where you wanna hear it, and the bass behind you. Kick ass quality...

    I have just regular speakers by the way, I just looked today. 1200w amp does the trick!
    As long as you're not claiming any sound quality standards its all good.
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    my advise is to pull out all the crappy factory junk and go with kenwood and mtx audio equipment thats what i did.
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    well I did some putzing around today with the rear deck speakers and I found the 6x9 does bass and theres a speaker "dont know the size" next to it handeling the mids and highs. So I also put my amp in and mounted it underneath the rear deck and all wires routed,zip tied and hidden. system sounded good yesterday till this afternoon when I went to the bank and herd this huming sound, so narrowed it to be a bad ground so I thought and pulled out everything, now there was no whine on the generator yesterday mind you but today there was. all wires replaced same whine or hum through the low pass on the amp... Soooo then I started moveing wires around and it would come and go, the problem was the rca jack on the amp its self that is lose, so all that work for something stupid but what angers me is the amp is now just a year and a half old. I replaced my california profile 4600 amp with an Alpine t503 amp I had laying around. I spent most of the afternoon on what shouldhave been a clean easy install....
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    I've had a little too much to interpet that situation, but post a reply and I'll be sure to make sense of this in the morning!

    As for GTP Joe... MTX and Kenwood aren't the only brands of speaker ****. If you live in the states check out the speaker section at partsexpress.com, they've got a lot of decent stuff that could work very well if you're willing to use active crossovers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    I've had a little too much to interpet that situation, but post a reply and I'll be sure to make sense of this in the morning!

    As for GTP Joe... MTX and Kenwood aren't the only brands of speaker ****. If you live in the states check out the speaker section at partsexpress.com, they've got a lot of decent stuff that could work very well if you're willing to use active crossovers.

    Id like to get an amp that has a mutch better active crossover into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorenzojay View Post
    Id like to get an amp that has a mutch better active crossover into it.
    I picked up an MTX x504 which puts out 50 watts per channel at 4 ohms and has four channels with high pass and low pass for each pair of channels, You can bridge them for 160 watts at 4 ohms bridged if you'd like too. Decent amp for $190 CAD.
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    mostly pioneer here in my stuff for the deck and amps , and memphis m class 5.25 and .75 m class tweets up front , type r 6x9 in the back , removed the factory 4 inch beside the 6x9's to let my jl 15w3 breathe from the trunk to the rear glass and gained 2 db just by doing that , sounds great and boomy with passenger side window cracked about 4 inches
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie97gt View Post
    mostly pioneer here in my stuff for the deck and amps , and memphis m class 5.25 and .75 m class tweets up front , type r 6x9 in the back , removed the factory 4 inch beside the 6x9's to let my jl 15w3 breathe from the trunk to the rear glass and gained 2 db just by doing that , sounds great and boomy with passenger side window cracked about 4 inches
    Anyone in the "know", knows boomy is bad. Unless of course you like that sound.

    You can get loud cleanly, but in a car, its really difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerStroker View Post
    I kept stock speakers and just balanced it right with my deck. Bass +/-0, Treble +3, Subwoofer +6-15 (depending on music), Balance +/-0, Fade +3. Keeps the treble up in front where you wanna hear it, and the bass behind you. Kick ass quality...

    I have just regular speakers by the way, I just looked today. 1200w amp does the trick!
    So you put almost $1000 bucks into wiring, amp, brown bread, speaker and box but you didnt think to spend a few extra bucks and get a set off components and a set of rear deck speakers.?.?.?
    Its great to have a concert in while you drive, but have ever been to a concert where you cant hear what they are saying? All you hear is bass?


    First and for most, the first thing I did was ordered a set of Alpine X-type interiors, components and rears. It may not be "King Kong in the trunk" but I can hear clearly!
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