Bill I totally understand where you are coming from. When I was doing a little research I found that there was a couple starter relocation kits made. The kit placed the starter underneath an oil pan. (Trying to find one....kinda hard). But at the moment I could care less about my tranny because it wont be lasting much longer. And parkave I did not know that. I thought all ls4s came with the tap shift. So with that being said are the wiring harnesses different from tapshift setup to the non tapshift. Or do they still both require a tcm?

Thanks a lot guys!!