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    II recently built the trans in my gtp, I was coming home from summit racing store in ga from getting the fpr and an fittings I needed to fix my car and keep it from running so rich. While coming home I decided tosee what the car would do from a 80mph role. I went wot and boost peaked at 13 psi at 6200 rpm in 3rd gear. I lifted at 110mph due to traffics ahead of me. Couple miles up the road I got off at my exit. While sitting at traffics light I turned the radio down to talk to my friend and once light changed I started accelerating and heard a knocking, at first thought it was someone else. I lifted off the throttle and it went away. I gave it more throttle and heard the knock again. Car just hit 173k miles. While I had engine out I checked the rod bearings and they looked great with no signs of wear. Retorqued rod and put new oil pan gasket on. I'm hoping that removing that rod cap didn't cause this failure. I will be removing engine this weekend and post results of what I find.
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    id say you killed it when you took the caps off to " check" the bearings. you dont do that to these engines. and the rod bolts are tty. aka one time use.

    if you took the mains of too, you for sure killed it with your own hand.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    id say you killed it when you took the caps off to " check" the bearings. you dont do that to these engines. and the rod bolts are tty. aka one time use.

    if you took the mains of too, you for sure killed it with your own hand.

    This is true. Never take the caps off. That alone will kill the motor in time
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    are main bolts and head bolts one tie use also? any others on the engine one time use or is it just the high torque bolts?
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    head bolts are tty too, one time use. unless you spend more for arp re usable stud kit. same for the main caps and rod studs.

    once the mains are taken off the whole block "will " twist, and its over then. unless you take it to a shop to be align honed. then get the crank checked or cut then install "new bearings" and torque em down.

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    thats nuts ive never hear that befor.. there is no process for taking mains off t twisting the block.. mines done then cuz i stripped it down to bear block
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    Quote Originally Posted by wowitsfast View Post
    thats nuts ive never hear that befor.. there is no process for taking mains off t twisting the block.. mines done then cuz i stripped it down to bear block
    you take that block to a shop and have it worked over or its a 200 mile engine tops. its not a 350 Chevy block, its a 3800 lol not the same thing.

    shop costs are more then a used engine. why 99% of us go used block.

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    so if you guys rebuild a used engine you dont touch the mains or crank? how do you trust that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wowitsfast View Post
    so if you guys rebuild a used engine you dont touch the mains or crank? how do you trust that?
    I dont rebuilt nothing, truck drops off, I drop in (after LIM of course)
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    sorry DSmuts i didnt mean to take over your thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by wowitsfast View Post
    sorry DSmuts i didnt mean to take over your thread
    Not my thread
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    Quote Originally Posted by wowitsfast View Post
    so if you guys rebuild a used engine you dont touch the mains or crank? how do you trust that?

    you take it to a shop to be machined. thats the only way to trust it.


    if you buy a used engine it is what it is. it either runs or it dont. but its 300 from a junk yard. with a warranty.

    the shop time will run more then that.

    once again, 99% of people will blow a engine and just drop a used block in there. modded to hell if one wishes. all but pistons of course. cam ic. double roller chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    you take it to a shop to be machined. thats the only way to trust it.


    if you buy a used engine it is what it is. it either runs or it dont. but its 300 from a junk yard. with a warranty.

    the shop time will run more then that.

    once again, 99% of people will blow a engine and just drop a used block in there. modded to hell if one wishes. all but pistons of course. cam ic. double roller chains.
    this is 99% true. Some people get free blocks if they are cool lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighOctaneRacing View Post
    this is 99% true. Some people get free blocks if they are cool lol
    i like cool people

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    that 6200 was in second gear btw.
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
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    LIM?remember im a noob to 3800 and its acronyms
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    Lower intake manifold
    98 GTP modded 1.9's, sd headers, 3.4", zzp 1.0 230K miles scrapped.
    04 Comp G zzp stb's, UMI ta's, Speedbuilt sways, bully flo heads, XP, zzp headers, fsic, thrasher shift kit, 60#, 2.6" corsa 2.5", Inferno hood
    01 gt z7 turbo tep trans zzp motor
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    I've reused main bolts and never had it align honed without any problems. Rod bolts I would replace, as they are much smaller.


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
    2001 GTP - cam, headers, nitrous, stock trans - 11.83 @ 116 <$2k in mods - sold
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    are arps worth the investment?
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    They are if you need to take it apart. But, I wouldn't take it apart just to install them.


    2001 GTP Drag Car - XPZ, Tischler heads, Upsidedown M90 IC'd, e85, Gen V, 2.3 w/ 5%OD
    2005 F350 6.0 - studded, deleted, tuned
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