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    so i guess i should stick with the xp that i here? and just run stock rockers? till i can get a set of 1.6 rockers? well i appreciate the help you guys are givin just do not want to make a bad choice on the cam cause it will in there for awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad1999gtp View Post
    so i guess i should stick with the xp that i here? and just run stock rockers? till i can get a set of 1.6 rockers? well i appreciate the help you guys are givin just do not want to make a bad choice on the cam cause it will in there for awhile.

    stock rockers are 1.6 or do you mean switching to 1.6. I'm running my stock rockers now and did with the S1X as well.
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    Factory rockers after 1999 are 1.66 ratio. 96-98 rockers are 1.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Vogel View Post
    Factory rockers after 1999 are 1.66 ratio. 96-98 rockers are 1.6
    So the 1.6 rr ZZP sells are smaller ratio that most of us have stock. Good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndeedSS View Post
    So the 1.6 rr ZZP sells are smaller ratio that most of us have stock. Good to know.

    Since they are aluminium they'll have no deflection and will make more power than a stock rocker with someone who is heavily modded.


    XP cam also like the turbo cars too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meemperor View Post
    Since they are aluminium they'll have no deflection and will make more power than a stock rocker with someone who is heavily modded.


    XP cam also like the turbo cars too
    That deflection nonsense has got to stop, the stock rockers don't deflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Vogel View Post
    That deflection nonsense has got to stop, the stock rockers don't deflect.
    Agreed. Ron showed me the light on this too. If you are talking about the old school stamped crap like I had in my stock SBC, yes, I could see how that piece of junk could deflect. But after getting my modded stockers recently, they look well engineered to my untrained eye. Metal can flex more than you'd intuitively think, but I would not worry about those suckers doing that at all. I'd think the push rod or something else will give first.

    That ZZP test is depressingly short on details. How they came up with the disparity in lift could have come from something other than the rockers. Not to mention they were testing the 1.9 with a #130 spring. I don't imagine many people have that combo. Even if it is accurate, they claimed the effective ratio was 1.87 on the 1.9. Close enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Vogel View Post
    That deflection nonsense has got to stop, the stock rockers don't deflect.
    Not even on 130#'s ? I was thinking of going to aluminium 1.6's because I thought they'd net me some power with an IS3 and 130# springs ?
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    Remember, if using the Rollmaster, it was developed for the L36, so it may be retarded 2 degrees when installed straight up in an L67.
    This not apply to the JP?
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