Thinking Meth

**ThePhoenix98** · 05-05-2014

Let me paint the scenario first...
Finally got my 03 back from my 'buddy' from the motor swap after 6 months might i add. Got the car back and he pretty much raped it. Including tellin me that my ZEX dry kit had been "stolen". Along with many other random things that i will save for a different thread.
So, since i no longer have nitrous, im looking into Water methanol. I been trying to search, but my computer isnt the best in the world.
I know you would need to tune and it is not smart to run without tuning it. I would be scanning for KR, but he also broke my Aeroforce, so
there goes that...

Im currently running a L67 with the Gen V, 3.25 MPS, SSIC, YT 1.85's, Pacesetters, Fellow member tune. GT Trans, 180*, 104's. Just found a website that has provided a DIY setup, so i have a parts list. I will plan to spray through the TB spacer(where my nitrous USED to be). Just need advice on what path to travel based on current mods and just overall thoughts. i know its been beat to death..

**Explicit_Spade** · 05-05-2014

Why not pulley drop instead?

**ThePhoenix98** · 05-05-2014

you think i could go lower without adding something else?

**Explicit_Spade** · 05-05-2014

According to ZZP:
97-03 Grand Prix & 04+ supercharged Impala & Monte Carlo SS

3.5 pulley totally stock car
3.4 pulley Colder Tstat & spark plugs, downpipe, Cold air intake (still could have KR)
3.3 pulley all of the above plus a VS cam, SS intercooler, or headers
3.2 pulley 3.4 mods and a XP cam
3.0 pulley 3.4 mods and a fullsize intercooler or an SS ic and a VS cam.
Anything smaller than a 3.0 pulley will require a camshaft, headers, intercooler & injectors.

I would spend the extra money up front for the suppoerting mods to run a smaller pulley than have to spend a bit up front for a kit that has a pump that could go bad over time and a tank I have to keep refilling. That's just me though...

**jayroca** · 05-06-2014

I thought you couldnt go lower than 3.2 without bigger injectors?

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**Explicit_Spade** · 05-06-2014

Depends on what your injector duty cycle is. Every car is going to be different from the factory and age differently as well. Scanning is the best thing you can do to find out what is going on with your car and to make sure it's ready for the next step.

**GTP89** · 05-07-2014

If possible pulley drop, raise timing and if you have available e85 over method injection.

**ThePhoenix98** · 05-07-2014

E85 not too available in MD. gotta travel too far. I had a 3.2 pulley, but he also "lost" that or it was stolen along with my got damnit Nitrous kit...
Need to find someone that can tune

**selliott** · 05-07-2014

You would need bigger injectors for e85 anyways. Check out devils own for meth kits. I may have one for sale before to long.

**jayroca** · 05-07-2014

Originally Posted by ThePhoenix98

E85 not too available in MD. gotta travel too far. I had a 3.2 pulley, but he also "lost" that or it was stolen along with my got damnit Nitrous kit...
Need to find someone that can tune

This.

Laurel is the only place and dc only has Georgetown.... so if I do e85 I would need a 5 gallon gas can before I do anything

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**Bio248** · 05-07-2014

meth is a great way to cover up some knock and to maybe bump a little timing up, but it seems like our cars tend to drown in it when you put too big of a nozzle on making the car boggy and just overall fall on it's face. i ran it for about 6 months, and although i was running a non-intercooled rocker setup on a 3.2, the car just didn't feel fast. it felt better on a 3.4 without the meth, really.

i say if you're gonna do it run a really small nozzle and just use it as a fail safe for random knock introduced by varying weather conditions and driving periods. i wouldn't be using it as a secondary intercooler.

**16MustangVet** · 05-07-2014

If you would have showed up last weekend so i could run your car you also could have had it dyno'd by vmp tuning since they had a dynojet trailer 80 bucks for 2 pulls at MIR........
Missed out on me spanking your car and getting your tune sorted.

Just a FYI georgetown sunoco on wisconsin ave is out of E85 as of last sunday.
My car is parked in the ramp with quarter tank of e85 left.

Edit before you throw a meth kit at it why dont you get the tune sorted first??

**jayroca** · 05-07-2014

Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet

If you would have showed up last weekend so i could run your car you also could have had it dyno'd by vmp tuning since they had a dynojet trailer 80 bucks for 2 pulls at MIR........
Missed out on me spanking your car and getting your tune sorted.

Just a FYI georgetown sunoco on wisconsin ave is out of E85 as of last sunday.
My car is parked in the ramp with quarter tank of e85 left.

Edit before you throw a meth kit at it why dont you get the tune sorted first??

Talkin big s**t are we? We can run!! Im actually hitting the capitol raceway sat me and a couple guys are headin out there I wish I could have made it there my car needs a dyno tune badly

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**REDCRAPGP** · 05-07-2014

^ watch out guys he now runs a air filter I bet his car will be really fast.

**jayroca** · 05-07-2014

Originally Posted by REDCOMPG

^ watch out guys he now runs a air filter I bet his car will be really fast.

Get out the wayyy!! Air Filter FTW!

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**16MustangVet** · 05-08-2014

You gonna have exhaust by then? Station got a e85 tanker yesturday so once i get back to dc i can go fill it up and fill a few cans for the trunk.

**ThePhoenix98** · 05-08-2014

So, if i can combine posts. Can i pay u to tune this m**f thing

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