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    I'm actually planning to do dyno comparisons with 50/50, 80/20 and pure meth to see how it affects power, inlet temps, etc. when my build is done. I may just make a separate thread.
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    do it, i'd love to see the actual results.

    i never ran anything but washer fluid or pure meth, so i'm a little biased on that side.
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    Was gonna add to this but nahhhh
    I like watching others flame the almighty never wrong mods on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet View Post
    Was gonna add to this but nahhhh
    I like watching others flame the almighty never wrong mods on this forum.
    tell me where i said someone was wrong.

    tell me where i said what i was saying is the absolute truth (sarcasm aside).
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    Had a local guy use 50/50 on a regal, then he made the switch to 100% meth. Knock stayed the exact same.

    OP: Put the kit on and run it. You won't hurt anything as long as your nozzle is the correct size.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    methanol evaporates and cools better than water does (and it's a fuel...) so by not running 100% you're doing yourself a disservice.
    wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    tell me where i said someone was wrong.

    tell me where i said what i was saying is the absolute truth (sarcasm aside).
    Ok Ok now that you leave the window open and provoke.

    For starters how about insisting over and over again that pure meth is better yet you claim your just bias that way. Hmm some would just call that being wrong....................
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    Isn't this forum notorious and widely known as having an admin and moderation team that knows next to nothing about Modding?
    OP just put the meth kit on and mix some distilled water in. You will get tried-and-true gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil99gp View Post
    Isn't this forum notorious and widely known as having an admin and moderation team that knows next to nothing about Modding?
    OP just put the meth kit on and mix some distilled water in. You will get tried-and-true gains.
    Nice knowing you, and Good luck with your banned camp goals of 2013.
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    Meth injection is a compicated world of chemistry/physics. There are distinct pros and cons in the water/meth mix rate, and really you need to weigh the differences based on the setup you have. In effect the water has the most cooling potential, while the meth has the most "efficentcy" potential as it has a lower boiling point, and it displaces less air as you can run your fueling leaner at the same time. the "increased octane" factor is small at best, its really the real world physics of what is happening that increases pre ignition resistance. Octane of fuel is based on the lowest common denominator in the cylinder... example if you had 87 octane fuel mixed with 93 octane AT THE INTAKE VALVE you are never going to get a 100% 50/50 mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bio248 View Post
    when spraying pure meth, you should be spraying a lot.
    ok 1 gallon per injector. that should work right?
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    You're doing a direct port kit? It honestly may not be worth the hassle, but if you want to do it go for it and let us know how it works. Do you have a gen 3 or a gen 5?
    - Ed - 2000 Grand Poverty Daytona edition. Rough idle. Funny whistle. Steering issues at WOT. 3.8 SC pulley.
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    I have a gen 3. Ported outlet if it makes a difference. I am currently instaling it now. Had some trouble finding a good spot for the extra resevoir that I did NOT want to use but ended up anyway. With some custom fabrication.. . I will show pics of my custom install when all done.

    What exactly do you mean direct port? I tapped in the TB.

    I have a progressive controller aswell that I need to hook up. I am not good at electrical stuff so here is my problem.

    "Connect Red wire at position 3 to +12 volt key on source. When selecting a 12V key on source, try to find a dedicated circuit fused for 10-15 amps."

    I broke my Multi Meter a few weeks ago, Not like I know what to look for anyway. What would be a good source to tap into?
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    If you're doing pre-blower meth on a gen 3, you're going to destroy that rotor coating real quick. As for the nozzle, it was so small I thought you'd have a 1gph nozzle for each cyl. If you're doing pre blower, I'd suggest 5gph, then 7gph if your car likes it. 1gph would be equivalent to pissing in the ocean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wotgtp View Post
    If you're doing pre-blower meth on a gen 3, you're going to destroy that rotor coating real quick. As for the nozzle, it was so small I thought you'd have a 1gph nozzle for each cyl. If you're doing pre blower, I'd suggest 5gph, then 7gph if your car likes it. 1gph would be equivalent to pissing in the ocean.
    I wish people would quit spreading the rumor about meth/fuel/E85 sprayed into the blower will remove the rotor coating.

    Your rotor coating will keep diminishing at the same rate it always has.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fri3dchick3n View Post
    I have a gen 3. Ported outlet if it makes a difference. I am currently instaling it now. Had some trouble finding a good spot for the extra resevoir that I did NOT want to use but ended up anyway. With some custom fabrication.. . I will show pics of my custom install when all done.

    What exactly do you mean direct port? I tapped in the TB.

    I have a progressive controller aswell that I need to hook up. I am not good at electrical stuff so here is my problem.

    "Connect Red wire at position 3 to +12 volt key on source. When selecting a 12V key on source, try to find a dedicated circuit fused for 10-15 amps."

    I broke my Multi Meter a few weeks ago, Not like I know what to look for anyway. What would be a good source to tap into?
    look under the hood at ur fuse panel it will tell you what runs off of 10-15 amp fuses find one u want to tap into then go tap into it
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    I wish people would quit spreading the rumor about meth/fuel/E85 sprayed into the blower will remove the rotor coating.

    Your rotor coating will keep diminishing at the same rate it always has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wotgtp View Post
    If you're doing pre-blower meth on a gen 3, you're going to destroy that rotor coating real quick. As for the nozzle, it was so small I thought you'd have a 1gph nozzle for each cyl. If you're doing pre blower, I'd suggest 5gph, then 7gph if your car likes it. 1gph would be equivalent to pissing in the ocean.
    i'd run an M5 pre-blower. it's just enough to be effective so long as you're spraying it correctly with the controller. you should never need it below about 7-8psi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fri3dchick3n View Post
    I have a gen 3. Ported outlet if it makes a difference. I am currently instaling it now. Had some trouble finding a good spot for the extra resevoir that I did NOT want to use but ended up anyway. With some custom fabrication.. . I will show pics of my custom install when all done.

    What exactly do you mean direct port? I tapped in the TB.

    I have a progressive controller aswell that I need to hook up. I am not good at electrical stuff so here is my problem.

    "Connect Red wire at position 3 to +12 volt key on source. When selecting a 12V key on source, try to find a dedicated circuit fused for 10-15 amps."

    I broke my Multi Meter a few weeks ago, Not like I know what to look for anyway. What would be a good source to tap into?
    How bout the power drop harness under the pass dash? Pretty sure there is 12v switched power there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTPpower View Post
    I wish people would quit spreading the rumor about meth/fuel/E85 sprayed into the blower will remove the rotor coating.

    Your rotor coating will keep diminishing at the same rate it always has.
    I was going off of what bio and others have said in the past, but now he's saying otherwise. So I guess I don't know what to believe now.
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