is it worth it to get the plog in 304 stainless?

**2000GTP** · 10-24-2008

Originally Posted by jims05ss

IMHO getting the plog in stainless AND ceramic coated is kind of overkill. I've had a stainless one for about a year and a half now and it's still in great shape. Also, if you wrap the x-over you get the semi-same effect as getting it ceramic coated for alot less $$.

yea, but i figure i might as well... its really not too much more. prob worth t in the long run. Does the heat wrapping really help that much with the xover? i know you arent supposed 2 put it on the plog.

**Mikegotone'02** · 10-24-2008

i hate to be this guy but....

Why do you guys waste money on a plog and crossover? Either one, by itself or together, doesn't matter. Why don't you just spend the 360.00 on non-coated pace setters and wrap them? I did, i can touch mine while the car is running and change my spark plugs right after running the car down the track. I used to have a FWI, now i have a HAI with a HUGE cone (made a big difference over the FWI IMO) because my under hood temps are down to just over ambient. It's night and day with header wrap. But i'm sure you've heard a story about them cracking... blah blah blah whatever, i run higher egt's than all of you with E85. Burns 100+ degrees hotter than gasoline (if you didn't know) and i haven't cracked mine yet... i also run nitrous, do you guys know how high egt's are with nitrous? HOT! Headers are one of the BIGGEST mods for our cars period. I used everything that came with my kit and even hooked it to the stock exhaust. Perfection! So, i need reasons why you won't do that? ohh and get them from zzp and you won't have all the horror stories you hear about installing them, trust me.

**Sabrewings** · 10-24-2008

Originally Posted by Mikegotone'02

Why do you guys waste money on a plog and crossover?

For me, two words. Naturally Aspirated.

They will be sold off when that changes. Any headers on the market for the 3800 kills the L36/L26 low end torque with the same gains up top as the Plog/ported manifold combo. Though, no lost low end with the Plog.

**Mikegotone'02** · 10-24-2008

Originally Posted by Sabrewings

For me, two words. Naturally Aspirated.

They will be sold off when that changes. Any headers on the market for the 3800 kills the L36/L26 low end torque with the same gains up top as the Plog/ported manifold combo. Though, no lost low end with the Plog.

for you i guess that makes sense... but i'd still rather have a top end. That motor makes plenty of tq, you'll still be able to cut some nice 60's with 3.29's paired with a 3k stall if you lose a little tq. But i'm not a n/a guru haha, so i can only give MHO but it's not facts. I'm sure you know 10x a million more things about n/a 3800's than i do. I really want to learn though, not gonna lie i think it would be just as fun to build a solid 14 sec gt then top swapping it into a monster.