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    Ok guys, Got the xp cam in, Heads just came back from the machine shop so it's time to put her back together.

    I got Autolite 103's but I don't know what to gap them?!

    Any help please.

    Thanks in advance.
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    What supercharger?
    What pulley size?
    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
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    Boost level is a good place to start.
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    Stock Ported S/C, Ported Lim & Heads

    3.4 Pully, Might drop to 3.25

    Is there a formula for figuring this out? or pure experience?
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    Your 103's are too cold. Use Autolite 104's gapped to 0.060".
    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowNA06 View Post
    Your 103's are too cold. Use Autolite 104's gapped to 0.060".
    Thanks for your input. What makes you say they are too cold? I was told by a few members to use 103's... I'm just curious as to how you feel 104's would run hotter?

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    .050 -- 104's will be great on a 3.25

    save the 103's for 3.1 or lower.
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    You want to run the hottest spark you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivefingerdeathpunch View Post
    You want to run the hottest spark you can.
    Right, I just don't know how to tell which plug will run hotter and why...
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    the higher the number, the hotter it is.
    Whine with your Cheese?
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    I've put Use Autolite 104's gapped to 0.060" on a 3.4" GenV setup running more boost than yours (more restricted exhaust) and had no knock or "spark blowout" issues. Anyone telling you to gap smaller probably hasn't actually experienced spark blowout and is just parroting something they heard. As for the plugs - ALWAYS start with the hottest plug you can, scan for knock, then go a single step colder as needed. The most common spark plug used in 3.4" pulley setups is only two heat ranges colder than stock; the AL104.
    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
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    I just use a low gap because Nick's are lazy.
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    Was wandering around the internets...

    Spark Plug Choices - RegalGS
    Irridium spark plugs last 100k mi and work just as well as copper. Copper is a waste on N/A and only lasts 15k mi. Don't use Platinum.
    Use 195* tstat unless you can thoroughly explain why not; 99.9% don't need a lower temp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowNA06 View Post
    Was wandering around the internets...

    Spark Plug Choices - RegalGS
    I remember that mess from ZZP's tech article from back in the day.

    Pretty sure at least...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuner-Extraordinaire View Post
    the higher the number, the hotter it is.
    Unless you're buying NGK.

    Lol at TR55 being one step colder, and even better, TR6 being two steps.
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    Here...from my thread:

    Spark Plugs - Change out those stock spark plugs with new ones to restore any lost power. Brands that most tend to go with are either Copper Core Autolites or NGK's. They range as follows in order from hottest to coldest plugs...remember...you want the hottest spark you can get away with...so running a super cold plug on a larger pulley to combat knock isn't the best plan...OEM replacement ACDelco's, AL606's, and AL605's are basically for stock cars or very small bolt-ons still running the stock S/C Pulley or modded N/A guys...you want to keep a hot spark. NGKTR55/AL104's for your 3.4" Setup, TR6's are a tad cooler...best used around the 3.25" pulley area, and AL103's...are for the extreme supercharged application...3.0" pulley or lower. Here is a picture to reference the firing order and the correct coil number if yours aren't numbered or you just need a quick reference picture: http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6.../plugwires.jpg

    AC Delco Factory Replacements: Stock
    Autolite 606: Stock
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    NGK TR55: 1 Heat Range Cooler
    Autolite 104: 2 Heat Ranges Cooler
    NGK TR6: 2 Heat Ranges Cooler
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    tell me then why its listed as stock replacement by NGK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt5112 View Post
    tell me then why its listed as stock replacement by NGK?
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    NGK Spark Plugs USA

    2000 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GTP 3.8 V6 1 FI Supercharged
    Spark Plug
    Part No.
    Stock No.
    Plug Gap
    Photo
    V-Power TR55
    3951
    .060
    G-Power TR55GP
    3403
    .060
    Laser Platinum PTR4B-15 * #
    5146
    .060
    OE Laser Iridium ITR4A15 ^
    5599
    .060
    Iridium IX TR55IX
    7164
    .060
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    Because it's changed over the years?

    You want to buy plugs for a V6 Ranger anyways.
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