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    I pulled apart my motor to replace the crank and cam sensor; while I tear it down I'm doing rockers but I don't have the top end on there except for the heads so when I hook up my compression tester tool the air just releases right out the injector hole as I try to pressurize the cylinder. Whats the trick to stopping this? I'd rather do these while I have nothing in the way of the rear. Thanks!
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    put the injectors back in the head, and hit the valve springs with a mallet to help seal the valves in the head so they dont leak. and you leave the air in and on, dont un hook it or turn off the compressor.

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    Won't putting the injectors back in but not securing them down just cause them to blow out? I didn't hear any air leaking from the valves but I'll double check it and hit the spring with a mallet. Thanks for the tip.
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    Mike...Unbolt the rockers. That's what is holding the valves open. Once you do that..you are golden. You simply put air to the cylinders too early.
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    I did unbolt the rockers, took the pedestal off too. At that point all I have left are push rods and valve springs to take apart. I took the valve out of the compression tester tool, screwed it into the spark plug socket and then attached my compressor and I get a huge amount of air out of the injector hole. Like scottydoggs was saying could it be that after taking the rockers off as you said I need to "nudge" the springs a bit it should seal completely and allow me to compress the spring?
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    Ok..easy enough.. often our valves leak. Using a rubber mallet..I tap the valves to open them. The quick shutting usually seals them up.
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    Ah perfect, thanks Bill! I'll give this a try and see what happens.
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    Or it'll leak anyways.

    I know my old beat up heads did that.

    Both intake and exhaust valves leaked.
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    There's a certain amount of leakage that you might get. But it'll be reasonable. And when you put the new spring on..give it another whack... usually the stronger spring stops the leak.
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    Ok, I just tried the mallet and was going to come back on to ask about a slight leakage. I mean it holds air but there was a tiny amount I could barely hear. I'm glad to know its an acceptable amount. Now if its any more than that then this would be the time to pull the heads an inspect I suppose. Thanks again everyone. Hopefully the LS6 springs will seal it a bit more, I'm glad I changed the timing chain because the tensioner had a huge piece at the bottom broken off and was worn pretty good.
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    Or have a valve job done. Most of our cars should get a valve job automatically. But..look at the work and cost vs dealing with a little leakage.
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