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    is anybody made a bov for the 3800 or know how to make one?
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    Why do you want a blow-off valve for a supercharger? It already has a factory bypass valve, if that's what you're asking about.
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    they want the pshhhhh
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2story View Post
    is anybody made a bov for the 3800 or know how to make one?
    Uhhhh.... yeah. Uninstall the Grand Prix, install a Subaru.



    ...then learn how a supercharger works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Wolf View Post
    Uhhhh.... yeah. Uninstall the Grand Prix, install a Subaru.



    ...then learn how a supercharger works.
    First time iv actually laughed out loud at a GP forums post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Wolf View Post
    Uhhhh.... yeah. Uninstall the Grand Prix, install a Subaru.



    ...then learn how a supercharger works.
    lmfao
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    I gotta have the sound, I gotta have the sound. So when I manually shift my auto tranny, I can let off the throttle and PSSST at every body.JK with ya man.lol!!!
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    haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfishRus6 View Post
    haha
    Hey, did you hear, I'm the forums useless ricer? HA!!!!
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    In all seriousness though, BOV's or waste gates which don't recycle air [in all applications that i am aware of] are extremely inefficient compared to those that do recycle air. [However they are efficient at adding a noise which usually sounds like this]. Your making boost for a reason and to release that boost rather then recycle it is just going to hinder performance.

    You DO [in turbo setups] need a place to release the air. Reason being is that in between shifts the back pressure causes resistance and the turbine to slow down. Then essentially you want the pressure to escape [so the turbine stays spooled up] and then the air be recycled after the vehicle shifts.

    The Supercharger does no have this issue as it is belt driven and not driven by exhaust gas. I believe [not positive about this] that when decelerating the s\c can put drag on the engine and the bypass valve opens up equalizing the pressure in the outlet and inlet of the blower.

    That being said, from what i understand it can be done, i don't know how and i wouldn't hold my breath on here waiting for anyone to help you with this. [if it cant be done someone plz correct me so i can sleep better tonight]
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    Quote Originally Posted by DnaProdigy View Post
    In all seriousness though, BOV's or waste gates which don't recycle air [in all applications that i am aware of] are extremely inefficient compared to those that do recycle air. [However they are efficient at adding a noise which usually sounds like this]. Your making boost for a reason and to release that boost rather then recycle it is just going to hinder performance.

    You DO [in turbo setups] need a place to release the air. Reason being is that in between shifts the back pressure causes resistance and the turbine to slow down. Then essentially you want the pressure to escape [so the turbine stays spooled up] and then the air be recycled after the vehicle shifts.

    The Supercharger does no have this issue as it is belt driven and not driven by exhaust gas. I believe [not positive about this] that when decelerating the s\c can put drag on the engine and the bypass valve opens up equalizing the pressure in the outlet and inlet of the blower.

    That being said, from what i understand it can be done, i don't know how and i wouldn't hold my breath on here waiting for anyone to help you with this. [if it cant be done someone plz correct me so i can sleep better tonight]
    the atmosphere bov (the rice one) sucks for your engine if you run turbo. your engine reads the air coming in, and if you blow that out, your engine will run rich as hell!! run crappy, sound crappy, whats the point right? but they call it a dv, forget the d stands for, but it gets dumped back into the air intake before the turbo, which essentialy heats up the air more and more, but not a big deal, gotta side mount on there stock. i like my 94 tsi awd!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by popeyenate View Post
    the atmosphere bov (the rice one) sucks for your engine if you run turbo. your engine reads the air coming in, and if you blow that out, your engine will run rich as hell!! run crappy, sound crappy, whats the point right? but they call it a dv, forget the d stands for, but it gets dumped back into the air intake before the turbo, which essentialy heats up the air more and more, but not a big deal, gotta side mount on there stock. i like my 94 tsi awd!!
    DV stands for diverter valve. And isn't a BOV typically before the MAF? If so, the MAF isn't reading the air that is exiting the charge pipe via the BOV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitelightnin04MC View Post
    DV stands for diverter valve. And isn't a BOV typically before the MAF? If so, the MAF isn't reading the air that is exiting the charge pipe via the BOV.
    what i meant that the air that is already calculated is dumped out before going into tb. so you will run really rich. i was tired and half my old post didnt make sense...but yes, it will run rich if you dont divert it...i would just reroute it back in anyways

    oh and my car has a mas, inside the air intake box...so no, not always. i could get a gm maf translator and use a maf from our cars and it wouldnt really matter..but why rice something???
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    Well said^^^^
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    lmao a bov on a gp install a subauru that was hysterical.
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    BOV noise is the one rice noise I do like, unless it sounds to much like a sneeze. I don't see the point in a BOV, but that noise would be *****ing to have.
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    Sure you can put 1 : ITS A WASTEGAUGE NOT A BLOW OFF VALVE . PPYF Has em they run about 149.99 its so fun especialy when you next to a honda or tuner they look at u in assuming lol until you take off and they are in ur rear mirror and the sound from a wastegauge is priceless .
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    wastegauge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99prixgt View Post
    wastegauge?
    Oh boy
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